From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: ThinerLogoer <logoerthiner1@163.com>,
"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] softmmu/physmem: fallback to opening guest RAM file as readonly in a MAP_PRIVATE mapping
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 16:30:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c92648e5-e974-48ac-2213-b5926a16ed4d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06f9a805-8150-8106-7d0a-05d0d2465cd0@redhat.com>
> @Stefan, do you have any concern when we would do 1) ?
>
> As far as I can tell, we have to set the nvdimm to "unarmed=on" either way:
>
> + "unarmed" controls the ACPI NFIT NVDIMM Region Mapping Structure "NVDIMM
> + State Flags" Bit 3 indicating that the device is "unarmed" and cannot accept
> + persistent writes. Linux guest drivers set the device to read-only when this
> + bit is present. Set unarmed to on when the memdev has readonly=on.
>
> So changing the behavior would not really break the nvdimm use case.
Looking into the details, this seems to be the right thing to do.
This is what I have now as patch description, that also highlights how libvirt
doesn't even make use of readonly=true.
From 42f272ace68e0cd660a8448adb5aefb3b9dd7005 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:09:07 +0200
Subject: [PATCH v2 2/4] backends/hostmem-file: Make share=off,readonly=on
result in RAM instead of ROM
For now, "share=off,readonly=on" would always result in us opening the
file R/O and mmap'ing the opened file MAP_PRIVATE R/O -- effectively
turning it into ROM.
As documented, readonly only specifies that we want to open the file R/O:
@readonly: if true, the backing file is opened read-only; if false,
it is opened read-write. (default: false)
Especially for VM templating, "share=off" is a common use case. However,
that use case is impossible with files that lack write permissions,
because "share=off,readonly=off" will fail opening the file, and
"share=off,readonly=on" will give us ROM instead of RAM.
With MAP_PRIVATE we can easily open the file R/O and mmap it R/W, to
turn it into COW RAM: private changes don't affect the file after all and
don't require write permissions.
This implies that we only get ROM now via "share=on,readonly=on".
"share=off,readonly=on" will give us RAM.
The sole user of ROM via memory-backend-file are R/O NVDIMMs. They
also require "unarmed=on" to be set for the nvdimm device.
With this change, R/O NVDIMMs will continue working even if
"share=off,readonly=on" was specified similar to when simply
providing ordinary RAM to the nvdimm device and setting "unarmed=on".
Note that libvirt seems to default for a "readonly" nvdimm to
* -object memory-backend-file,share=off (implying readonly=off)
* -device nvdimm,unarmed=on
And never seems to even set "readonly=on" for memory-backend-file. So
this change won't affect libvirt, they already always get COW RAM -- not
modifying the underlying file but opening it R/O.
If someone really wants ROM, they can just use "share=on,readonly=on".
After all, there is not relevant difference between a R/O MAP_SHARED
file mapping and a R/O MAP_PRIVATE file mapping.
Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-17 14:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-07 19:07 [PATCH v1 0/3] softmmu/physmem: file_ram_open() readonly improvements David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 19:07 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] softmmu/physmem: fallback to opening guest RAM file as readonly in a MAP_PRIVATE mapping David Hildenbrand
2023-08-08 21:01 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-09 5:39 ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-09 9:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-09 15:15 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 14:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 17:06 ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-10 21:24 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 5:49 ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-11 14:31 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-12 6:21 ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-22 13:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 19:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-12 5:18 ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-17 9:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:30 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-08-17 14:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 14:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:45 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 14:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:41 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-17 15:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 15:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-17 15:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 15:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 15:31 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-17 15:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 13:46 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 13:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 14:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 15:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:16 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 16:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:22 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 16:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:54 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 17:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 21:07 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-21 12:20 ` Igor Mammedov
2023-08-11 15:47 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-17 13:42 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 13:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 13:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 13:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 19:07 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] softmmu/physmem: fail creation of new files in file_ram_open() with readonly=true David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 19:07 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] softmmu/physmem: never return directories from file_ram_open() David Hildenbrand
2023-08-08 17:26 ` Re:[PATCH v1 0/3] softmmu/physmem: file_ram_open() readonly improvements ThinerLogoer
2023-08-10 11:11 ` [PATCH " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-08-10 16:35 ` ThinerLogoer
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