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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>
Cc: Yan Vugenfirer <yan@daynix.com>,
	Andrew Melnychenko <andrew@daynix.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] eBPF RSS support for virtio-net
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 10:07:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <caa38709-88f1-bd6d-3ff9-61e64c3aa51f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOEp5Oe3btwgPcOA6v=kK9s2to=x2Hg6Qw2iCFXOOWZs49s=-Q@mail.gmail.com>


On 2020/11/3 下午6:32, Yuri Benditovich wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 11:02 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com 
> <mailto:jasowang@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     On 2020/11/3 上午2:51, Andrew Melnychenko wrote:
>     > Basic idea is to use eBPF to calculate and steer packets in TAP.
>     > RSS(Receive Side Scaling) is used to distribute network packets
>     to guest virtqueues
>     > by calculating packet hash.
>     > eBPF RSS allows us to use RSS with vhost TAP.
>     >
>     > This set of patches introduces the usage of eBPF for packet steering
>     > and RSS hash calculation:
>     > * RSS(Receive Side Scaling) is used to distribute network packets to
>     > guest virtqueues by calculating packet hash
>     > * eBPF RSS suppose to be faster than already existing 'software'
>     > implementation in QEMU
>     > * Additionally adding support for the usage of RSS with vhost
>     >
>     > Supported kernels: 5.8+
>     >
>     > Implementation notes:
>     > Linux TAP TUNSETSTEERINGEBPF ioctl was used to set the eBPF program.
>     > Added eBPF support to qemu directly through a system call, see the
>     > bpf(2) for details.
>     > The eBPF program is part of the qemu and presented as an array
>     of bpf
>     > instructions.
>     > The program can be recompiled by provided Makefile.ebpf(need to
>     adjust
>     > 'linuxhdrs'),
>     > although it's not required to build QEMU with eBPF support.
>     > Added changes to virtio-net and vhost, primary eBPF RSS is used.
>     > 'Software' RSS used in the case of hash population and as a
>     fallback option.
>     > For vhost, the hash population feature is not reported to the guest.
>     >
>     > Please also see the documentation in PATCH 6/6.
>     >
>     > I am sending those patches as RFC to initiate the discussions
>     and get
>     > feedback on the following points:
>     > * Fallback when eBPF is not supported by the kernel
>
>
>     Yes, and it could also a lacking of CAP_BPF.
>
>
>     > * Live migration to the kernel that doesn't have eBPF support
>
>
>     Is there anything that we needs special treatment here?
>
> Possible case: rss=on, vhost=on, source system with kernel 5.8 
> (everything works) -> dest. system 5.6 (bpf does not work), the 
> adapter functions, but all the steering does not use proper queues.


Right, I think we need to disable vhost on dest.


>
>
>
>     > * Integration with current QEMU build
>
>
>     Yes, a question here:
>
>     1) Any reason for not using libbpf, e.g it has been shipped with some
>     distros
>
>
> We intentionally do not use libbpf, as it present only on some distros.
> We can switch to libbpf, but this will disable bpf if libbpf is not 
> installed


That's better I think.


>     2) It would be better if we can avoid shipping bytecodes
>
>
>
> This creates new dependencies: llvm + clang + ...
> We would prefer byte code and ability to generate it if prerequisites 
> are installed.


It's probably ok if we treat the bytecode as a kind of firmware.

But in the long run, it's still worthwhile consider the qemu source is 
used for development and llvm/clang should be a common requirement for 
generating eBPF bytecode for host.


>
>
>     > * Additional usage for eBPF for packet filtering
>
>
>     Another interesting topics in to implement mac/vlan filters. And
>     in the
>     future, I plan to add mac based steering. All of these could be
>     done via
>     eBPF.
>
>
> No problem, we can cooperate if needed
>
>
>     >
>     > Know issues:
>     > * hash population not supported by eBPF RSS: 'software' RSS used
>
>
>     Is this because there's not way to write to vnet header in
>     STERRING BPF?
>
> Yes. We plan to submit changes for kernel to cooperate with BPF and 
> populate the hash, this work is in progress


That would require a new type of eBPF program and may need some work on 
verifier.

Btw, macvtap is still lacking even steering ebpf program. Would you want 
to post a patch to support that?


>
>     > as a fallback, also, hash population feature is not reported to
>     guests
>     > with vhost.
>     > * big-endian BPF support: for now, eBPF is disabled for
>     big-endian systems.
>
>
>     Are there any blocker for this?
>
>
> No, can be added in v2


Cool.

Thanks


>
>     Just some quick questions after a glance of the codes. Will go
>     through
>     them tomorrow.
>
>     Thanks
>
>
>     >
>     > Andrew (6):
>     >    Added SetSteeringEBPF method for NetClientState.
>     >    ebpf: Added basic eBPF API.
>     >    ebpf: Added eBPF RSS program.
>     >    ebpf: Added eBPF RSS loader.
>     >    virtio-net: Added eBPF RSS to virtio-net.
>     >    docs: Added eBPF documentation.
>     >
>     >   MAINTAINERS                    |   6 +
>     >   configure                      |  36 +++
>     >   docs/ebpf.rst                  |  29 ++
>     >   docs/ebpf_rss.rst              | 129 ++++++++
>     >   ebpf/EbpfElf_to_C.py           |  67 ++++
>     >   ebpf/Makefile.ebpf             |  38 +++
>     >   ebpf/ebpf-stub.c               |  28 ++
>     >   ebpf/ebpf.c                    | 107 +++++++
>     >   ebpf/ebpf.h                    |  35 +++
>     >   ebpf/ebpf_rss.c                | 178 +++++++++++
>     >   ebpf/ebpf_rss.h                |  30 ++
>     >   ebpf/meson.build               |   1 +
>     >   ebpf/rss.bpf.c                 | 470 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>     >   ebpf/trace-events              |   4 +
>     >   ebpf/trace.h                   |   2 +
>     >   ebpf/tun_rss_steering.h        | 556
>     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>     >   hw/net/vhost_net.c             |   2 +
>     >   hw/net/virtio-net.c            | 120 ++++++-
>     >   include/hw/virtio/virtio-net.h |   4 +
>     >   include/net/net.h              |   2 +
>     >   meson.build                    |   3 +
>     >   net/tap-bsd.c                  |   5 +
>     >   net/tap-linux.c                |  19 ++
>     >   net/tap-solaris.c              |   5 +
>     >   net/tap-stub.c                 |   5 +
>     >   net/tap.c                      |   9 +
>     >   net/tap_int.h                  |   1 +
>     >   net/vhost-vdpa.c               |   2 +
>     >   28 files changed, 1889 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>     >   create mode 100644 docs/ebpf.rst
>     >   create mode 100644 docs/ebpf_rss.rst
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/EbpfElf_to_C.py
>     >   create mode 100755 ebpf/Makefile.ebpf
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/ebpf-stub.c
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/ebpf.c
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/ebpf.h
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/ebpf_rss.c
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/ebpf_rss.h
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/meson.build
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/rss.bpf.c
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/trace-events
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/trace.h
>     >   create mode 100644 ebpf/tun_rss_steering.h
>     >
>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-04  2:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-02 18:51 [RFC PATCH 0/6] eBPF RSS support for virtio-net Andrew Melnychenko
2020-11-02 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] net: Added SetSteeringEBPF method for NetClientState Andrew Melnychenko
2020-11-04  2:49   ` Jason Wang
2020-11-04  9:34     ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-02 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] ebpf: Added basic eBPF API Andrew Melnychenko
2020-11-02 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] ebpf: Added eBPF RSS program Andrew Melnychenko
2020-11-03 13:07   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-02 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] ebpf: Added eBPF RSS loader Andrew Melnychenko
2020-11-02 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] virtio-net: Added eBPF RSS to virtio-net Andrew Melnychenko
2020-11-04  3:09   ` Jason Wang
2020-11-04 11:07     ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-04 11:13       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-04 15:51         ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-05  3:29       ` Jason Wang
2020-11-02 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] docs: Added eBPF documentation Andrew Melnychenko
2020-11-04  3:15   ` Jason Wang
2020-11-05  3:56   ` Jason Wang
2020-11-05  9:40     ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-03  9:02 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] eBPF RSS support for virtio-net Jason Wang
2020-11-03 10:32   ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-03 11:56     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-04  2:15       ` Jason Wang
2020-11-04  2:07     ` Jason Wang [this message]
2020-11-04  9:31       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-05  3:46         ` Jason Wang
2020-11-05  3:52           ` Jason Wang
2020-11-05  9:11             ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-05 10:01           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-05 13:19             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-05 15:13               ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-09  2:13                 ` Jason Wang
2020-11-09 13:33                   ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-10  2:23                     ` Jason Wang
2020-11-10  8:00                       ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-04 11:49       ` Yuri Benditovich
2020-11-04 12:04         ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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