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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] memory: pause all vCPUs for the duration of memory transactions
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 13:42:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb74d717-cfc1-a78b-cf80-eb8ebf1075fd@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87imav26d8.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com>

On 27.10.20 13:36, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> On 26.10.20 11:43, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 26.10.20 09:49, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>>>> Currently, KVM doesn't provide an API to make atomic updates to memmap when
>>>> the change touches more than one memory slot, e.g. in case we'd like to
>>>> punch a hole in an existing slot.
>>>>
>>>> Reports are that multi-CPU Q35 VMs booted with OVMF sometimes print something
>>>> like
>>>>
>>>> !!!! X64 Exception Type - 0E(#PF - Page-Fault)  CPU Apic ID - 00000003 !!!!
>>>> ExceptionData - 0000000000000010  I:1 R:0 U:0 W:0 P:0 PK:0 SS:0 SGX:0
>>>> RIP  - 000000007E35FAB6, CS  - 0000000000000038, RFLAGS - 0000000000010006
>>>> RAX  - 0000000000000000, RCX - 000000007E3598F2, RDX - 00000000078BFBFF
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> The problem seems to be that TSEG manipulations on one vCPU are not atomic
>>>> from other vCPUs views. In particular, here's the strace:
>>>>
>>>> Initial creation of the 'problematic' slot:
>>>>
>>>> 10085 ioctl(13, KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION, {slot=6, flags=0, guest_phys_addr=0x100000,
>>>>     memory_size=2146435072, userspace_addr=0x7fb89bf00000}) = 0
>>>>
>>>> ... and then the update (caused by e.g. mch_update_smram()) later:
>>>>
>>>> 10090 ioctl(13, KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION, {slot=6, flags=0, guest_phys_addr=0x100000,
>>>>     memory_size=0, userspace_addr=0x7fb89bf00000}) = 0
>>>> 10090 ioctl(13, KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION, {slot=6, flags=0, guest_phys_addr=0x100000,
>>>>     memory_size=2129657856, userspace_addr=0x7fb89bf00000}) = 0
>>>>
>>>> In case KVM has to handle any event on a different vCPU in between these
>>>> two calls the #PF will get triggered.
>>>>
>>>> An ideal solution to the problem would probably require KVM to provide a
>>>> new API to do the whole transaction in one shot but as a band-aid we can
>>>> just pause all vCPUs to make memory transations atomic.
>>>>
>>>> Reported-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> RFC: Generally, memap updates happen only a few times during guest boot but
>>>> I'm not sure there are no scenarios when pausing all vCPUs is undesireable
>>>> from performance point of view. Also, I'm not sure if kvm_enabled() check
>>>> is needed.
>>>> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>   softmmu/memory.c | 11 +++++++++--
>>>>   1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/softmmu/memory.c b/softmmu/memory.c
>>>> index fa280a19f7f7..0bf6f3f6d5dc 100644
>>>> --- a/softmmu/memory.c
>>>> +++ b/softmmu/memory.c
>>>> @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
>>>>   
>>>>   #include "exec/memory-internal.h"
>>>>   #include "exec/ram_addr.h"
>>>> +#include "sysemu/cpus.h"
>>>>   #include "sysemu/kvm.h"
>>>>   #include "sysemu/runstate.h"
>>>>   #include "sysemu/tcg.h"
>>>> @@ -1057,7 +1058,9 @@ static void address_space_update_topology(AddressSpace *as)
>>>>   void memory_region_transaction_begin(void)
>>>>   {
>>>>       qemu_flush_coalesced_mmio_buffer();
>>>> -    ++memory_region_transaction_depth;
>>>> +    if ((++memory_region_transaction_depth == 1) && kvm_enabled()) {
>>>> +        pause_all_vcpus();
>>>> +    }
>>>>   }
>>>>   
>>>>   void memory_region_transaction_commit(void)
>>>> @@ -1087,7 +1090,11 @@ void memory_region_transaction_commit(void)
>>>>               }
>>>>               ioeventfd_update_pending = false;
>>>>           }
>>>> -   }
>>>> +
>>>> +        if (kvm_enabled()) {
>>>> +            resume_all_vcpus();
>>>> +        }
>>>> +    }
>>>>   }
>>>>   
>>>>   static void memory_region_destructor_none(MemoryRegion *mr)
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is in general unsafe. pause_all_vcpus() will temporarily drop the
>>> BQL, resulting in bad things happening to caller sites.
> 
> Oh, I see, thanks! I was expecting there's a reason we don't have this
> simple fix in already :-)
> 
>>>
>>> I studies the involved issues quite intensively when wanting to resize
>>> memory regions from virtio-mem code. It's not that easy.
>>>
>>> Have a look at my RFC for resizing. You can apply something similar to
>>> other operations.
>>>
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg684979.html
>>
>> Oh, and I even mentioned the case you try to fix here back then
>>
>> "
>> Instead of inhibiting during the region_resize(), we could inhibit for the
>> hole memory transaction (from begin() to commit()). This could be nice,
>> because also splitting of memory regions would be atomic (I remember there
>> was a BUG report regarding that), however, I am not sure if that might
>> impact any RT users.
>> "
>>
>> The current patches live in
>> https://github.com/davidhildenbrand/qemu/commits/virtio-mem-next
>>
>> Especially
>>
>> https://github.com/davidhildenbrand/qemu/commit/433fbb3abed20f15030e42f2b2bea7e6b9a15180
>>
>>
> 
> I'm not sure why we're focusing on ioctls here. I was debugging my case
> quite some time ago but from what I remember it had nothing to do with
> ioctls from QEMU. When we are removing a memslot any exit to KVM may
> trigger an error condition as we'll see that vCPU or some of our
> internal structures (e.g. VMCS for a nested guest) references
> non-existent memory. I don't see a good solution other than making the
> update fully atomic from *all* vCPUs point of view and this requires
> stopping all CPUs -- either from QEMU or from KVM.

I cannot follow. My patch waits until *any* KVM ioctls are out of the 
kernel. That includes VCPUs, but also other ioctls (because there are 
some that require a consistent memory block state).

So from a KVM point of view, the CPUs are stopped.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-27 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-26  8:49 [PATCH RFC] memory: pause all vCPUs for the duration of memory transactions Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-10-26 10:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-26 11:17   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-27 12:36     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-10-27 12:42       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-10-27 13:02         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-10-27 13:08           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-27 13:19             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-10-27 13:35               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-10-27 13:47                 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-10-27 14:20                   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-11-02 19:57 ` Peter Xu
2020-11-03 13:07   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-11-03 16:37     ` Peter Xu
2020-11-04 18:09       ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-11-04 19:23         ` Peter Xu
2020-11-05 15:36           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-11-05 16:35             ` Peter Xu
2020-11-04 17:58     ` Laszlo Ersek

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