qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: "fam@euphon.net" <fam@euphon.net>,
	Denis Lunev <den@virtuozzo.com>,
	"qemu-block@nongnu.org" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"mreitz@redhat.com" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"jsnow@redhat.com" <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] block: blk_co_pcache
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 08:09:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cbec5fee-8c57-f929-28b0-e68e1992c757@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190617120929.GF7397@linux.fritz.box>


[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1868 bytes --]

On 6/17/19 7:09 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:

>>>
>>> Hmm, don't you think that blk_co_pcache sends NBD_CMD_CACHE if called on nbd driver?
>>> I didn't implement it. But may be I should..
>>>
>>> May aim was only to avoid extra allocation and unnecessary reads. But if we implement
>>> full-featured io request, what should it do?
>>>
>>> On qcow2 with backing it should pull data from backing to top, like in copy-on-read.
>>> And for nbd it will send NBD_CMD_CACHE?
>>> These semantics seems different, but why not?
>>>
>>
>> Any opinions here? Should I resend or could we use it as a first step,
>> not touching external API but improving things a little bit?
> 
> I'm not opposed to making only a first step now. The interface seems to
> make sense to me; the only thing that I don't really like is the naming
> both of the operation (blk_co_pcache) and of the flag (BDRV_REQ_CACHE)
> because to me, "cache" doesn't mean "read, but ignore the result".
> 
> The operation only results in something being cached if the block graph
> is configured to cache things. And indeed, the most importatn use case
> for the flag is not populating a cache, but triggering copy-on-read. So
> I think calling this operation "cache" is misleading.
> 
> Now, I don't have very good ideas for better names either. I guess
> BDRV_REQ_NO_DATA could work, though it's not perfect. (Also, not sure if
> a blk_co_preadv_no_read wrapper is even needed when you can just call
> blk_co_preadv with the right flag.)
> 
> I'm open for good naming ideas.

Would 'prefetch' be a more useful name? The name NBD_CMD_CACHE was
chosen in the NBD project, but we are not stuck to that name if we think
something better makes more sense.

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3226
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org


[-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-17 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-06 13:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] block: blk_co_pcache Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-06 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] block: implement blk_co_pcache Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-06 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] block/stream: use blk_co_pcache Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-06 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] nbd: improve CMD_CACHE: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-06 13:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] block: blk_co_pcache Eric Blake
2019-06-06 14:07   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-17 11:20     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-17 12:09       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-06-17 12:32         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-17 13:09         ` Eric Blake [this message]
2019-06-17 13:20           ` Kevin Wolf
2019-06-18  7:38             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-18  8:23               ` Kevin Wolf

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=cbec5fee-8c57-f929-28b0-e68e1992c757@redhat.com \
    --to=eblake@redhat.com \
    --cc=den@virtuozzo.com \
    --cc=fam@euphon.net \
    --cc=jsnow@redhat.com \
    --cc=kwolf@redhat.com \
    --cc=mreitz@redhat.com \
    --cc=qemu-block@nongnu.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=stefanha@redhat.com \
    --cc=vsementsov@virtuozzo.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).