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From: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-fs@redhat.com,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"German Maglione" <gmaglione@redhat.com>,
	"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"Anton Kuchin" <antonkuchin@yandex-team.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/8] vhost-user.rst: Clarify enabling/disabling vrings
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:17:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cc513d48-bf05-557c-2e93-fb26480cd83c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231018081336-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 18.10.23 14:14, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 02:58:59PM +0200, Hanna Czenczek wrote:
>> Currently, the vhost-user documentation says that rings are to be
>> initialized in a disabled state when VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES is
>> negotiated.  However, by the time of feature negotiation, all rings have
>> already been initialized, so it is not entirely clear what this means.
>>
>> At least the vhost-user-backend Rust crate's implementation interpreted
>> it to mean that whenever this feature is negotiated, all rings are to
>> put into a disabled state, which means that every SET_FEATURES call
>> would disable all rings, effectively halting the device.  This is
>> problematic because the VHOST_F_LOG_ALL feature is also set or cleared
>> this way, which happens during migration.  Doing so should not halt the
>> device.
>>
>> Other implementations have interpreted this to mean that the device is
>> to be initialized with all rings disabled, and a subsequent SET_FEATURES
>> call that does not set VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES will enable all of
>> them.  Here, SET_FEATURES will never disable any ring.
>>
>> This interpretation does not suffer the problem of unintentionally
>> halting the device whenever features are set or cleared, so it seems
>> better and more reasonable.
>>
>> We can clarify this in the documentation by making it explicit that the
>> enabled/disabled state is tracked even while the vring is stopped.
>> Every vring is initialized in a disabled state, and SET_FEATURES without
>> VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES simply becomes one way to enable all
>> vrings.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
>
> OK so I am expecting v5. My advice is to move patch 1 to end of patchset
> so we can defer it if we want to.

Already sent – I’ve just dropped patch 1, since it doesn’t add anything 
to the objective of the patch series itself:

https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2023-10/msg04727.html

Hanna



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-18 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-04 12:58 [PATCH v4 0/8] vhost-user: Back-end state migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-04 12:58 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] vhost-user.rst: Deprecate [GS]ET_STATUS Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:08   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-05 17:15     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06  7:48       ` [Virtio-fs] (no subject) Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06  8:45         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06  9:15           ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06  9:26             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06  9:47               ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 10:34                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06 11:42                   ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 15:17                     ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-06 15:47                       ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 20:49                         ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-09  8:07                           ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-07  2:22                   ` Yajun Wu
2023-10-09  8:21                     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-09  9:07                       ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-09  9:13                         ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-10  4:00                           ` Yajun Wu
2023-10-10  8:18                             ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-10 10:36                               ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-10 13:18                                 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-10 14:35                                   ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-13 18:02                                     ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-17  7:49                                       ` Viresh Kumar
2023-10-17  8:13                                         ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-09 10:28                     ` German Maglione
2023-10-10  2:56                       ` Yajun Wu
2023-10-10 10:04                         ` German Maglione
2023-10-04 12:58 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] vhost-user.rst: Improve [GS]ET_VRING_BASE doc Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-06  7:53     ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06  8:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-06 13:55         ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-06 13:58           ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-07 21:29             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-07 21:27           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-04 12:58 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] vhost-user.rst: Clarify enabling/disabling vrings Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:43   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-18 12:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 16:17     ` Hanna Czenczek [this message]
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] vhost-user.rst: Introduce suspended state Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] vhost-user.rst: Migrating back-end-internal state Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:46   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] vhost-user: Interface for migration state transfer Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:46   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] vhost: Add high-level state save/load functions Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:46   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-04 12:59 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] vhost-user-fs: Implement internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-10-05 17:46   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-10-05 17:48 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] vhost-user: Back-end state migration Stefan Hajnoczi

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