* [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
@ 2004-07-15 19:35 Fabrice Bellard
2004-07-15 21:07 ` Antony T Curtis
2004-07-15 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " malc
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From: Fabrice Bellard @ 2004-07-15 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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From: Fabrice Bellard <fabrice@bellard.org>
To: hetz@witch.dyndns.org
Subject: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:34:23 +0200
Message-ID: <40F6DC3F.6080604@bellard.org>
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> With the latest changes to the output of serial and the QEMU console, you'll
> need to use CTRL SHIFT and depends on what you wish, F1, F2, and F3..
>
> That cause problems with stuff like:
>
> * Changing keyboard languages in Windows as a guest (pressing CTRL SHIFT in
> Windows with support for Hebrew, Arabic, Farsi, Thai makes the whole line/s
> "ident" to the right or left, depends which combination you pressed)
> * Hebrew/Arabic/Farsi/Thai support in QT based apps (RTL extension)..
>
> So, I suggest to change the keys to CTRL ALT and 1,2,3 etc (since CTRL ALT
> F1-F3 is being taken by the VT's)..
>
> Fabrice, comments?
This is a good idea. Do you also want CTRL-ALT-F for full screen and
another key to switch the grab state ?
Fabrice.
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 19:35 [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion] Fabrice Bellard
@ 2004-07-15 21:07 ` Antony T Curtis
2004-07-20 21:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Emmanuel Charpentier
2004-07-15 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " malc
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From: Antony T Curtis @ 2004-07-15 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 20:35, Fabrice Bellard wrote:
<snip>
> This is a good idea. Do you also want CTRL-ALT-F for full screen and
> another key to switch the grab state ?
I personally think that the Shift-Ctrl combination is good ... I cannot
remember any application else which uses that for action keystrokes.
--
Antony T Curtis <antony.t.curtis@ntlworld.com>
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " malc
@ 2004-07-15 21:09 ` Antony T Curtis
2004-07-15 21:28 ` Jim C. Brown
2004-07-15 21:31 ` Jernej Simončič
2004-07-15 22:04 ` Laurent Amon
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From: Antony T Curtis @ 2004-07-15 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 00:51, malc wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Fabrice Bellard wrote:
> >
> > Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > With the latest changes to the output of serial and the QEMU console, you'll
> > > need to use CTRL SHIFT and depends on what you wish, F1, F2, and F3..
> > >
> > > That cause problems with stuff like:
> > >
> > > * Changing keyboard languages in Windows as a guest (pressing CTRL SHIFT in
> > > Windows with support for Hebrew, Arabic, Farsi, Thai makes the whole line/s
> > > "ident" to the right or left, depends which combination you pressed)
> > > * Hebrew/Arabic/Farsi/Thai support in QT based apps (RTL extension)..
> > >
> > > So, I suggest to change the keys to CTRL ALT and 1,2,3 etc (since CTRL ALT
> > > F1-F3 is being taken by the VT's)..
> > >
> > > Fabrice, comments?
> >
> > This is a good idea. Do you also want CTRL-ALT-F for full screen and
> > another key to switch the grab state ?
>
> UAE(if im not mistaken, after all i stole the idea from there) uses
> F12+hotkey for those, one can go as far as use PrintScreen/Pause or some
> other weird and underused key for a combo.
How about Ctrl-SysRq ?
IBM designated that keystroke for getting the attention of the System...
Unfortunately, Microsoft decided they knew better and went with
Ctrl-Alt-Del.
Can anyone think of anything which actually uses Ctrl-SysRq?
--
Antony T Curtis <antony.t.curtis@ntlworld.com>
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 21:09 ` Antony T Curtis
@ 2004-07-15 21:28 ` Jim C. Brown
2004-07-15 21:31 ` Jernej Simončič
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From: Jim C. Brown @ 2004-07-15 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:09:24PM +0100, Antony T Curtis wrote:
>
> How about Ctrl-SysRq ?
>
> IBM designated that keystroke for getting the attention of the System...
> Unfortunately, Microsoft decided they knew better and went with
> Ctrl-Alt-Del.
>
> Can anyone think of anything which actually uses Ctrl-SysRq?
>
> --
> Antony T Curtis <antony.t.curtis@ntlworld.com>
>
No. Linux, the kernel, uses Alt-SysRq though. At least if you compile it
with kernel debugging (it is useful as you can umount your filesystems and
reboot after a kernel panic).
>
>
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 21:09 ` Antony T Curtis
2004-07-15 21:28 ` Jim C. Brown
@ 2004-07-15 21:31 ` Jernej Simončič
2004-07-16 2:17 ` Sylvain Petreolle
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From: Jernej Simončič @ 2004-07-15 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Antony T Curtis on [qemu-devel]
On Thursday, July 15, 2004, 23:09:24, Antony T Curtis wrote:
> Can anyone think of anything which actually uses Ctrl-SysRq?
Isn't that Ctrl+PrintScreen? IIRC, in DOS it caused printing of everything
that went on screen.
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-- Tylk's Law
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " malc
2004-07-15 21:09 ` Antony T Curtis
@ 2004-07-15 22:04 ` Laurent Amon
2004-07-15 22:42 ` Jim C. Brown
2004-07-16 7:42 ` vaise
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From: Laurent Amon @ 2004-07-15 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
On 16 juil. 04, at 01:51, malc wrote:
> UAE(if im not mistaken, after all i stole the idea from there) uses
> F12+hotkey for those, one can go as far as use PrintScreen/Pause or
> some
> other weird and underused key for a combo.
>
I'd rather have some key combo you can have on a mac keyboard, if you
don't mind :-)
Maybe we can make that customizable?
Lga.
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 22:04 ` Laurent Amon
@ 2004-07-15 22:42 ` Jim C. Brown
2004-07-16 7:42 ` vaise
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From: Jim C. Brown @ 2004-07-15 22:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 12:04:31AM +0200, Laurent Amon wrote:
>
> On 16 juil. 04, at 01:51, malc wrote:
> >UAE(if im not mistaken, after all i stole the idea from there) uses
> >F12+hotkey for those, one can go as far as use PrintScreen/Pause or
> >some
> >other weird and underused key for a combo.
> >
> I'd rather have some key combo you can have on a mac keyboard, if you
> don't mind :-)
>
> Maybe we can make that customizable?
>
> Lga.
>
>
Yes, in the qemu config file have something like
QemuVcKey = Ctrl-Alt-0
MonitorVcKey = Ctrl-Alt-1
SerialVcKey = Ctrl-Alt-2
MouseGrab = Shift-PrintScreen
where the key sequence can be any key sequence thats valid for the monitor's
sendkey command, and the defaults being
QemuVcKey = Ctrl-Shift-F1
MonitorVcKey = Ctrl-Shift-F2
SerialVcKey = Ctrl-Shift-F3
MouseGrab = Ctrl-Shift
I guess you could make em command line options, tho its kinda messy...
qemu -QemuVcKey Ctrl-Shift-F1 -MonitorVcKey Ctrl-Shift-F2 -SerialVcKey Ctrl-Shift-F3 -MouseGrab Ctrl-Shift
I like the new monitor/serial options btw .. makes qemu more configurable.
I can get the old behavior with "qemu -monitor stdio -serial pty ..." but if
I need to I can also do "qemu -serial stdio .." and just use a pipe to talk
to the serial console. Clever!
>
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 19:35 [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion] Fabrice Bellard
2004-07-15 21:07 ` Antony T Curtis
@ 2004-07-15 23:51 ` malc
2004-07-15 21:09 ` Antony T Curtis
2004-07-15 22:04 ` Laurent Amon
1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: malc @ 2004-07-15 23:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Fabrice Bellard wrote:
>
> Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > With the latest changes to the output of serial and the QEMU console, you'll
> > need to use CTRL SHIFT and depends on what you wish, F1, F2, and F3..
> >
> > That cause problems with stuff like:
> >
> > * Changing keyboard languages in Windows as a guest (pressing CTRL SHIFT in
> > Windows with support for Hebrew, Arabic, Farsi, Thai makes the whole line/s
> > "ident" to the right or left, depends which combination you pressed)
> > * Hebrew/Arabic/Farsi/Thai support in QT based apps (RTL extension)..
> >
> > So, I suggest to change the keys to CTRL ALT and 1,2,3 etc (since CTRL ALT
> > F1-F3 is being taken by the VT's)..
> >
> > Fabrice, comments?
>
> This is a good idea. Do you also want CTRL-ALT-F for full screen and
> another key to switch the grab state ?
UAE(if im not mistaken, after all i stole the idea from there) uses
F12+hotkey for those, one can go as far as use PrintScreen/Pause or some
other weird and underused key for a combo.
--
mailto:malc@pulsesoft.com
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 21:31 ` Jernej Simončič
@ 2004-07-16 2:17 ` Sylvain Petreolle
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From: Sylvain Petreolle @ 2004-07-16 2:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
--- Jernej Simonèiè <jernej@ena.si> a écrit :
> > Can anyone think of anything which actually uses Ctrl-SysRq?
>
> Isn't that Ctrl+PrintScreen? IIRC, in DOS it caused printing of everything
> that went on screen.
>
It _was_ PrintScreen only...
But tell us if you need really this function to be enabled today ?
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 22:04 ` Laurent Amon
2004-07-15 22:42 ` Jim C. Brown
@ 2004-07-16 7:42 ` vaise
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From: vaise @ 2004-07-16 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
On Friday 16 July 2004 00:04, Laurent Amon wrote:
> I'd rather have some key combo you can have on a mac keyboard, if you
> don't mind :-)
>
> Maybe we can make that customizable?
>
Thank you Laurent !
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* [Qemu-devel] Re: [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-15 21:07 ` Antony T Curtis
@ 2004-07-20 21:39 ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2004-07-20 22:10 ` Laurent Amon
2004-07-21 6:08 ` Pavel Janík
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From: Emmanuel Charpentier @ 2004-07-20 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
Antony T Curtis wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 20:35, Fabrice Bellard wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>This is a good idea. Do you also want CTRL-ALT-F for full screen and
>>another key to switch the grab state ?
>
>
> I personally think that the Shift-Ctrl combination is good ... I cannot
> remember any application else which uses that for action keystrokes.
Ahem...
OpenOffice Writer uses ctrl+Shift+Space for unbreakable spaces.
Emmanuel Charpentier
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-20 21:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Emmanuel Charpentier
@ 2004-07-20 22:10 ` Laurent Amon
2004-07-21 6:08 ` Pavel Janík
2004-07-21 6:08 ` Pavel Janík
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Laurent Amon @ 2004-07-20 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
On 20 juil. 04, at 23:39, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote:
> Antony T Curtis wrote:
>> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 20:35, Fabrice Bellard wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> This is a good idea. Do you also want CTRL-ALT-F for full screen and
>>> another key to switch the grab state ?
>> I personally think that the Shift-Ctrl combination is good ... I
>> cannot
>> remember any application else which uses that for action keystrokes.
>
> Ahem...
>
> OpenOffice Writer uses ctrl+Shift+Space for unbreakable spaces.
>
> Emmanuel Charpentier
We'll have to settle on something (or make it configureable). Note that
you can also reconigure OOo shortcuts.
May I suggest Escape-Meta-Alt-Ctrl-Shift + something ? We have 2 hands,
after all :-)
Lga.
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-20 21:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Emmanuel Charpentier
2004-07-20 22:10 ` Laurent Amon
@ 2004-07-21 6:08 ` Pavel Janík
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From: Pavel Janík @ 2004-07-21 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
From: Emmanuel Charpentier <charpent@bacbuc.dyndns.org>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:39:48 +0200
> OpenOffice Writer uses ctrl+Shift+Space for unbreakable spaces.
Isn't it Ctrl+SPC only?
--
Pavel Janík
I don't think that this filesystem is usable if you care about
your program writes your data complete and correct to disk.
-- Thorsten Kukuk in about XFS
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-20 22:10 ` Laurent Amon
@ 2004-07-21 6:08 ` Pavel Janík
2004-07-21 8:46 ` Johannes Schindelin
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From: Pavel Janík @ 2004-07-21 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
From: Laurent Amon <amon@stanfordalumni.org>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:10:41 +0200
> May I suggest Escape-Meta-Alt-Ctrl-Shift + something ? We have
> 2 hands, after all :-)
No, This is used to start DOOM in Emacs.
--
Pavel Janík
... and that I stopped debugging because a power outage destroyed the live
gdb session.
-- Francesco Potorti` debugging GNU Emacs
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [Fwd: Re: keyboard shortcut suggestion]
2004-07-21 6:08 ` Pavel Janík
@ 2004-07-21 8:46 ` Johannes Schindelin
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From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2004-07-21 8:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel
Hi,
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, [iso-8859-2] Pavel Janík wrote:
> From: Laurent Amon <amon@stanfordalumni.org>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:10:41 +0200
>
> > May I suggest Escape-Meta-Alt-Ctrl-Shift + something ? We have
> > 2 hands, after all :-)
>
> No, This is used to start DOOM in Emacs.
... or is it the other way round?
Ciao,
Dscho
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