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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	xuyandong <xuyandong2@huawei.com>
Cc: Zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	"wangxin (U)" <wangxinxin.wang@huawei.com>,
	lidonglin <lidonglin@huawei.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Huangweidong (C)" <weidong.huang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] An emulation failure occurs, if I hotplug vcpus immediately after the VM start
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 14:55:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ced449d6-1778-6641-d055-4fedda442a47@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4409ea2d-971d-8898-bd1a-9e9b9e9172dc@redhat.com>

On 07.06.2018 14:36, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 07/06/2018 13:36, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> The dirty bitmap would be synced in kvm_region_del (so it's not true
>>> that kvm_region_del would disappear, but almost :)).
>> I was rather concerned when doing a KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGIONS while
>> some (already present) memory region is performing dirty tracking and
>> therefore has a dirty_bitmap pointer assigned.
>>
>> As we have to expect that all different kinds of parameters can change
>> (e.g. the size of a slot as I pointed out), the old bitmap cannot be
>> reused. At least not atomically -  we could create a new one and the
>> simply or the old content.
>>
>> Well, we could make that dirty tracking a special case ("all dirty
>> tracking data will be lost in case doing a KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGIONS"
>> - but this again could lead to races (if the bitmap sync happens before
>> KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGIONS)). It's tricky to get it right :)
> 
> At the point where QEMU calls region_del, the guest is not supposed to
> access the region anymore, so it's okay to do the final sync there.  The
> same race exists now already.

The point is that KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGIONS is the big hammer, not the
fine grained region_add/region_del. All regions are suddenly involved.
So we have to handle dirty_bitmaps somehow.

But I agree that those that would actually change
(split/resized/whatever) should not be currently dirty tracked (or at if
they are, they should be able to live with the possible race).

Devil is in the detail :)

> 
> Paolo
> 
>>> The rmap is more interesting.  Perhaps it can be just rebuilt on every
>>> KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGIONS call.
> 


-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-07 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-01  8:17 [Qemu-devel] An emulation failure occurs, if I hotplug vcpus immediately after the VM start xuyandong
2018-06-01 10:23 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-06 13:28   ` Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-06 13:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-06 14:18       ` xuyandong
2018-06-06 14:23         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-07 10:37       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 11:02         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-07 11:36           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 12:36             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-07 12:55               ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2018-06-07 16:03                 ` 浙大邮箱
2018-06-11 10:44                   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-11 12:25                     ` Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-11 12:36                       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-11 13:25                         ` Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-07 10:39       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 11:13         ` Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-07 11:43           ` David Hildenbrand

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