[Qemu-devel] Problems with Zeta LiveCD

[Qemu-devel] Problems with Zeta LiveCD

[Ulf Magnusson]

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I'm trying to boot the Zeta LiveCD with QEMU. At first I tried the default
boot settings (in the guest OS). That got me to the loading screen, but the
boot process fails (when the disks symbol is highlighted) with the message
"PANIC: The boot loader was unable to find a BeOS volume to boot from ... ".


I then accessed the boot menu (with space during boot) and selected "CD-ROM"
as the boot volume (the default setting is "CD-ROM or hard drive"). The boot
process still hangs at the same spot, but now the message is "Please place
the BeOS CD in the CD-ROM drive". I tried ejecting the CD with "eject cdrom"
in the QEMU console and then reinserting it with "change cdrom zeta.iso",
but it didn't help.

I'm using a CD Image of the Zeta LiveCD. The command I'm starting QEMU with
is

$ qemu -cdrom zeta.iso -boot d

I also tried booting with a disk created with qemu-img,

$ qemu -cdrom zeta.iso -hda diska -boot d

but it didn't help.

On a side note, the colors of the splash screen are wrong until you enter
and exit the boot menu.

Has anyone had any success in getting Zeta to run? Could this be due to a
bug in QEMU's CD-handling code?

System:
Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r10 #9 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) processor AuthenticAMD
GNU/Linux
QEMU 0.7.2 (I've also tried 0.6.1)

Ulf Magnusson

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Problems with Zeta LiveCD

[Christian Wiese]

Hi,

this behaviour is because of the way a BeOS/ZETA cd is constructed. For 
some more infos take a look at the bottom of this page:
http://forum.mlotz.ch/viewtopic.php?t=120

What you could do:
- Make a boot floppy out of track one of your demo-cd.
- Extract the second track as iso (be sure to take only the second track)
- In qEmu boot from your virtual floppy, press `space` to access the 
bootmenu and select your virtual hd.
This way I get a complete ZETA installed in qEmu. But don´t expect to 
much, as most hardware is currently not supported (the last time i tried)

Greetings,
 Chris

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problems with Zeta LiveCD

[Ulf Magnusson]

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I noticed the official distribution already has the two tracks split into
zetaboot.img and zetacd.img, so that's less work me :)

I ran

$ qemu -cdrom zetaboot.img -hda zetacd.img -boot d

and selected the hd from the boot menu. That led to a kernel panic (PANIC:
boot device not found").

I then tried running without any hd, and instead changed the disk to
zetacd.img from the console when the prompt for the CD came up. That way I
got to the magnifying glass stage of the ZETA boot screen, but there it
panics with "PANIC: no shell!". Any ideas?

Thanks for your reply,
Ulf

On 10/23/05, Christian Wiese <developlists@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> this behaviour is because of the way a BeOS/ZETA cd is constructed. For
> some more infos take a look at the bottom of this page:
> http://forum.mlotz.ch/viewtopic.php?t=120
>
> What you could do:
> - Make a boot floppy out of track one of your demo-cd.
> - Extract the second track as iso (be sure to take only the second track)
> - In qEmu boot from your virtual floppy, press `space` to access the
> bootmenu and select your virtual hd.
> This way I get a complete ZETA installed in qEmu. But don´t expect to
> much, as most hardware is currently not supported (the last time i tried)
>
> Greetings,
> Chris
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Qemu-devel mailing list
> Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
>

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Problems with Zeta LiveCD

[Christian Wiese]

Sorry, haven´t the files here till now.
But maybe you could try something like that:
qemu -floppy zetaboot.img -cdrom zetacd.img -boot a
If I get the live cd the next days I´ll try with it myself.

Greetings,
  Chris

Ulf Magnusson wrote:

> I noticed the official distribution already has the two tracks split 
> into zetaboot.img and zetacd.img, so that's less work me :)
>
> I ran
>
> $ qemu -cdrom zetaboot.img -hda zetacd.img -boot d
>
> and selected the hd from the boot menu. That led to a kernel panic 
> (PANIC: boot device not found").
>
> I then tried running without any hd, and instead changed the disk to 
> zetacd.img from the console when the prompt for the CD came up. That 
> way I got to the magnifying glass stage of the ZETA boot screen, but 
> there it panics with "PANIC: no shell!". Any ideas?
>
> Thanks for your reply,
> Ulf
>
> On 10/23/05, *Christian Wiese* <developlists@gmx.de 
> <mailto:developlists@gmx.de>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     this behaviour is because of the way a BeOS/ZETA cd is
>     constructed. For
>     some more infos take a look at the bottom of this page:
>     http://forum.mlotz.ch/viewtopic.php?t=120
>     <http://forum.mlotz.ch/viewtopic.php?t=120>
>
>     What you could do:
>     - Make a boot floppy out of track one of your demo-cd.
>     - Extract the second track as iso (be sure to take only the second
>     track)
>     - In qEmu boot from your virtual floppy, press `space` to access the
>     bootmenu and select your virtual hd.
>     This way I get a complete ZETA installed in qEmu. But don´t expect to
>     much, as most hardware is currently not supported (the last time i
>     tried)
>
>     Greetings,
>     Chris
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Qemu-devel mailing list
>     Qemu-devel@nongnu.org <mailto:Qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
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>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Problems with Zeta LiveCD

[Ulf Magnusson]

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That gets me (with -fda substituted for -floppy, which isn't a valid option)
an error from the QEMU BIOS that the disk is not bootable. It's too large (
1.8Mb) to fit on a regular floppy anyhow.

On 10/23/05, Christian Wiese <developlists@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Sorry, haven´t the files here till now.
> But maybe you could try something like that:
> qemu -floppy zetaboot.img -cdrom zetacd.img -boot a
> If I get the live cd the next days I´ll try with it myself.
>
> Greetings,
> Chris
>
> Ulf Magnusson wrote:
>
> > I noticed the official distribution already has the two tracks split
> > into zetaboot.img and zetacd.img, so that's less work me :)
> >
> > I ran
> >
> > $ qemu -cdrom zetaboot.img -hda zetacd.img -boot d
> >
> > and selected the hd from the boot menu. That led to a kernel panic
> > (PANIC: boot device not found").
> >
> > I then tried running without any hd, and instead changed the disk to
> > zetacd.img from the console when the prompt for the CD came up. That
> > way I got to the magnifying glass stage of the ZETA boot screen, but
> > there it panics with "PANIC: no shell!". Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks for your reply,
> > Ulf
> >
> > On 10/23/05, *Christian Wiese* <developlists@gmx.de
> > <mailto:developlists@gmx.de>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > this behaviour is because of the way a BeOS/ZETA cd is
> > constructed. For
> > some more infos take a look at the bottom of this page:
> > http://forum.mlotz.ch/viewtopic.php?t=120
> > <http://forum.mlotz.ch/viewtopic.php?t=120>
> >
> > What you could do:
> > - Make a boot floppy out of track one of your demo-cd.
> > - Extract the second track as iso (be sure to take only the second
> > track)
> > - In qEmu boot from your virtual floppy, press `space` to access the
> > bootmenu and select your virtual hd.
> > This way I get a complete ZETA installed in qEmu. But don´t expect to
> > much, as most hardware is currently not supported (the last time i
> > tried)
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Qemu-devel mailing list
> > Qemu-devel@nongnu.org <mailto:Qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> > <http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel>
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Problems with Zeta LiveCD

[André Braga]

The Zeta boot disk requires 2.88MB floppy emulation. I suppose QEMU
still doesn't support that.

On 10/25/05, Ulf Magnusson <ulfalizer@gmail.com> wrote:
> That gets me (with -fda substituted for -floppy, which isn't a valid option)
> an error from the QEMU BIOS that the disk is not bootable. It's too large
> (1.8Mb) to fit on a regular floppy anyhow.
>
>

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problems with Zeta LiveCD

[Christian Wiese]

Hello again,

I now find some little time to load and test the demo cd.
I forgot that zetaboot.img is the first track of the cd. So you need to 
extract the boot-floppy-file first. You can do this with isobuster for 
instance. With this BootImgage.img you can emulate a proper boot disk. 
But for one reason or another this is not the only problem. So I´m sorry 
to not help you any further. I simply forget how I created my BeOS/ZETA 
HD image :-(

Greetings,
  Chris

Ulf Magnusson wrote:

> That gets me (with -fda substituted for -floppy, which isn't a valid 
> option) an error from the QEMU BIOS that the disk is not bootable. 
> It's too large (1.8Mb) to fit on a regular floppy anyhow.
>
> On 10/23/05, *Christian Wiese* <developlists@gmx.de 
> <mailto:developlists@gmx.de>> wrote:
>
>     Sorry, haven´t the files here till now.
>     But maybe you could try something like that:
>     qemu -floppy zetaboot.img -cdrom zetacd.img -boot a
>     If I get the live cd the next days I´ll try with it myself.
>
>     Greetings,
>       Chris
>
>     Ulf Magnusson wrote:
>
>     > I noticed the official distribution already has the two tracks
>     split
>     > into zetaboot.img and zetacd.img, so that's less work me :)
>     >
>     > I ran
>     >
>     > $ qemu -cdrom zetaboot.img -hda zetacd.img -boot d
>     >
>     > and selected the hd from the boot menu. That led to a kernel panic
>     > (PANIC: boot device not found").
>     >
>     > I then tried running without any hd, and instead changed the disk to
>     > zetacd.img from the console when the prompt for the CD came up. That
>     > way I got to the magnifying glass stage of the ZETA boot screen,
>     but
>     > there it panics with "PANIC: no shell!". Any ideas?
>     >
>     > Thanks for your reply,
>     > Ulf
>     >
>     > On 10/23/05, *Christian Wiese* <developlists@gmx.de
>     <mailto:developlists@gmx.de>
>     > <mailto:developlists@gmx.de <mailto:developlists@gmx.de>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi,
>     >
>     >     this behaviour is because of the way a BeOS/ZETA cd is
>     >     constructed. For
>     >     some more infos take a look at the bottom of this page:
>     >     http://forum.mlotz.ch/viewtopic.php?t=120
>     >     < http://forum.mlotz.ch/viewtopic.php?t=120>
>     >
>     >     What you could do:
>     >     - Make a boot floppy out of track one of your demo-cd.
>     >     - Extract the second track as iso (be sure to take only the
>     second
>     >     track)
>     >     - In qEmu boot from your virtual floppy, press `space` to
>     access the
>     >     bootmenu and select your virtual hd.
>     >     This way I get a complete ZETA installed in qEmu. But don´t
>     expect to
>     >     much, as most hardware is currently not supported (the last
>     time i
>     >     tried)
>     >
>     >     Greetings,
>     >     Chris
>     >
>     >
>     >     _______________________________________________
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>     >     Qemu-devel@nongnu.org <mailto:Qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
>     <mailto:Qemu-devel@nongnu.org <mailto:Qemu-devel@nongnu.org>>
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>     >
>     >
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>     >
>
>
>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Problems with Zeta LiveCD

[Johannes Schindelin]

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Hi,

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Christian Wiese wrote:

> I now find some little time to load and test the demo cd.
> I forgot that zetaboot.img is the first track of the cd. So you need to
> extract the boot-floppy-file first. You can do this with isobuster for
> instance. With this BootImgage.img you can emulate a proper boot disk. But for
> one reason or another this is not the only problem. So I´m sorry to not help
> you any further. I simply forget how I created my BeOS/ZETA HD image :-(

IIRC the second track was nothing else than a partition image itself. 
Either that or a HD image.

Hth,
Dscho