From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] New VMState table based load/save infrastructure
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:34:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cover.1250692287.git.quintela@redhat.com> (raw)
His this is 2nd version of the series, I changed:
v2:
* Add _V() constructors. We almost never need the version field.
* Add const to VMStateDescription uses (BlueWirl suggestion)
* Add const to VMStateInfo uses
* Remove VMStateInfo parameter from get/put callbacks. Not needed.
* Load of old versions is done with old foo_load function (Kraxel suggestion)
* Add struct support
* Move i8254 to new infrastructure, to test struct support
* I removed the autostart patches, updated version sent to list
i8254 note:
There is only one timer in the 1st channel, in the other two channels,
the timer is not created ever, this is the reason why I sent the irq_timer
not in the irq channels.
ToDo:
- still not optional test function. Notice that this can be done
with a local VMStateInfo struct.
- Start/end functions, not done waiting for user case (next goal is virtio
and I think we need them there).
- For structures, Kraxel suggested to use a VMSTATE_INCLUDE() instead of
having to declare a new VMStateInfo struct. As I already have the new
struct code working, I sent it with the struct. Thinking about how to
implement the VMSTATE_INCLUDE() and which one is easier to use.
Comments?
v1:
This series implement a new save/load approach for device state. I want to
start a discussion on how is better to design it. This is the reason why only
one device has been ported to this new approach.
I increased the version_id of apic state, just to sent the 3 arrays
(isr, tmr, irr) as arrays. I didn't want to introduce structure support
before there is any discussion about this, not that it is imposible to do
it in a compatible way.
Problems of current approach:
- have to maintain both load and save functions on sync
- it is not type safe
- you can't use easily the device save/load information to do more things.
For instance, print the state of a device in the monitor. To do this, you
basically have to copy foo_apic() function.
- You can't examine the saved images in any meaningful way
New approach:
- you only have to declare the state once, in a table, save/load functions are
generic for all devices.
- it is type safe
- it is qdev-like design (i.e. you don't have to learn yet a completely
different appearch for a similar problem)
- it is trivial to add new operations to VMStateInfo, and then you can use
them anywhere (for instance printing in the monitor, etc).
Problems of new approach:
- it is less flexible, you can't progamatically save in any order that you want.
It is not clear to me that we _want_ that flexibility. Look for instance
and hw/msix.c and think if you can be sure that save/load are on sync, and
as soon as we get new versions, that things could be tested to be wright.
What do I want to discuss:
a- do we want to be able to load state form old versions?
I am not sure that we are going to get this right for complex devices,
and I don't completely see how we can have any kind of testing here.
There was already a discussion about this on the list.
b- Is this the right approach? What more do we want/need?
For instance, implementing struct save support, and calling
other "sub-descriptions" is not difficult, we just have to decide
if we want it.
c- In the current approach, we have loops to send arrays, I think that one
got already done better on new approarch. But we don't have support
for ifs (see hw/ide.c
if (s->identify_set) {
qemu_get_buffer(f, (uint8_t *)s->identify_data, 512);
}
Do we want support for things like that?
d- how aggresive should the new design be? i.e. be able to be compatible with
old design is good, or can we start with a clean sheet and just remove the
gotchas of the previous design?
Juan Quintela (3):
New VMstate save/load infrastructure
Port apic to new VMState design
Port i8254 to new VMState design
hw/apic.c | 67 ++++++-------
hw/hw.h | 153 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
hw/i8254.c | 72 ++++++++------
savevm.c | 325 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
4 files changed, 548 insertions(+), 69 deletions(-)
next reply other threads:[~2009-08-19 14:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-19 14:34 Juan Quintela [this message]
2009-08-19 14:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] New VMstate save/load infrastructure Juan Quintela
2009-08-19 14:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Port apic to new VMState design Juan Quintela
2009-08-19 14:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Port i8254 " Juan Quintela
2009-08-19 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] New VMState table based load/save infrastructure Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-19 16:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
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