[Qemu-devel] documentation

[Qemu-devel] documentation

[G 3]

I have been trying to compile Qemu on MinGW but I keep running into 
problems. The biggest problem I face is outdated documentation. Who is 
in charge of Qemu's documentation? In the section about compiling under 
Windows there is mention of a file called i386-mingw32msvb.tar.gz. This 
file doesn't exist any more in SDL 1.2.13. It would really help the 
Qemu community if they tried to update their documentation. 

Re: [Qemu-devel] documentation

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi,

On Mon, 11 May 2009, G 3 wrote:

> I have been trying to compile Qemu on MinGW but I keep running into 
> problems. The biggest problem I face is outdated documentation. Who is 
> in charge of Qemu's documentation? In the section about compiling under 
> Windows there is mention of a file called i386-mingw32msvb.tar.gz. This 
> file doesn't exist any more in SDL 1.2.13.

Well, nobody is in charge.  This is an Open Source project, so people do 
what they like, and apparently nobody liked taking care of the 
documentation.

> It would really help the Qemu community if they tried to update their 
> documentation.

I fail to see how.  The developers seemed to be quite capable of doing 
without the outdated documentation...

Oh, and if you wanted to suggest that better documentation could give QEmu 
a bigger user community: as far as I can tell, nobody working on QEmu 
would have any benefit from a larger user base.

Ciao,
Dscho

[Qemu-devel] Re: documentation

[G 3]

On May 11, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 11 May 2009, G 3 wrote:
>
>> I have been trying to compile Qemu on MinGW but I keep running into
>> problems. The biggest problem I face is outdated documentation. Who is
>> in charge of Qemu's documentation? In the section about compiling 
>> under
>> Windows there is mention of a file called i386-mingw32msvb.tar.gz. 
>> This
>> file doesn't exist any more in SDL 1.2.13.
>
> Well, nobody is in charge.  This is an Open Source project, so people 
> do
> what they like, and apparently nobody liked taking care of the
> documentation.
>
>> It would really help the Qemu community if they tried to update their
>> documentation.
>
> I fail to see how.  The developers seemed to be quite capable of doing
> without the outdated documentation...
>
> Oh, and if you wanted to suggest that better documentation could give 
> QEmu
> a bigger user community: as far as I can tell, nobody working on QEmu
> would have any benefit from a larger user base.

Better documentation would make it easier for users to actually make 
Qemu. I know all you Qemu experts know how to compile the program, but 
remember there are still people out there that don't know as much as 
you do. It is only logical that up to date documentation be provided so 
others may enjoy this program as well.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: documentation

[Gabriel Southern]

If you want help using QEMU, I think the QEMU forum is probably a
better place to ask than the qemu-devel mailing list (I don't think
there is a working qemu-users mailing list):

http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/index.php

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM, G 3 <programmingkidx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On May 11, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 11 May 2009, G 3 wrote:
>>
>>> I have been trying to compile Qemu on MinGW but I keep running into
>>> problems. The biggest problem I face is outdated documentation. Who is
>>> in charge of Qemu's documentation? In the section about compiling under
>>> Windows there is mention of a file called i386-mingw32msvb.tar.gz. This
>>> file doesn't exist any more in SDL 1.2.13.
>>
>> Well, nobody is in charge.  This is an Open Source project, so people do
>> what they like, and apparently nobody liked taking care of the
>> documentation.
>>
>>> It would really help the Qemu community if they tried to update their
>>> documentation.
>>
>> I fail to see how.  The developers seemed to be quite capable of doing
>> without the outdated documentation...
>>
>> Oh, and if you wanted to suggest that better documentation could give QEmu
>> a bigger user community: as far as I can tell, nobody working on QEmu
>> would have any benefit from a larger user base.
>
> Better documentation would make it easier for users to actually make Qemu. I
> know all you Qemu experts know how to compile the program, but remember
> there are still people out there that don't know as much as you do. It is
> only logical that up to date documentation be provided so others may enjoy
> this program as well.
>
>
>
>

[Qemu-devel] Documentation

[Donald Allen]

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I've just this week begun using qemu (actually qemu-kvm) on a 64-bit
Slackware (13.37) system. You people have produced a very useful piece of
software, very nice work. But I must say that the documentation does not do
the software justice. I have just spent a maddening several hours trying to
get simple smb access to files on the host machine working. The
documentation on networking is scattered over multiple places, much of it is
obsolete and/or incorrect, and it suffers from lack of examples. After
several hours, I finally noticed the comment on the page

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/Networking

that says that

qemu -m 256 -hda winxp.img -kernel-kqemu &
qemu -m 256 -hda winxp.img -kernel-kqemu -net nic -net user &

are equivalent. Aha! -net nic and -net user are *not* mutually
exclusive, as the qemu man page implies. And the smb option only works
with -net user. But if you specify *only* -net user, you don't get a
network interface in the guest. Where do you read about this key fact
that *both* -net options are needed, as I
pieced together after hours of detective work?

If you care about people using this thing, then I suggest to you that
you think about the common cases (and I submit that just wanting to
access the network at large plus files on the host machine is a common
case) and concentrate the documentation effort on those.
And *please* give examples.

Thanks again for your good work, but please improve the documentation.

/Don Allen

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[Qemu-devel] documentation

[Mehmet Ergun]

hi,

I'm a new user and I found the documentation a little confusing. I was
wondering whether you are considering to work on the online
documentation, provide a few videos, explain the network commands a bit
more, and do a general overhaul of the documentation structure.

A few videos explaining the installation and running the software would
be really nice :)

May be a few tutorials on how to do some interesting stuff with qemu?

thanks a lot for this nice software.

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