From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: bitmap migration bug with -drive while block mirror runs
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 17:27:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d32d21c0-6f18-39ba-6da3-060c865f701a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191001150950.GD4688@linux.fritz.box>
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On 01.10.19 17:09, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 01.10.2019 um 16:34 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
>> On 01.10.19 16:27, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>> 01.10.2019 17:13, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>> On 01.10.19 16:00, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>>> 01.10.2019 3:09, John Snow wrote:
>>>>>> Hi folks, I identified a problem with the migration code that Red Hat QE
>>>>>> found and thought you'd like to see it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1652424#c20
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very, very briefly: drive-mirror inserts a filter node that changes what
>>>>>> bdrv_get_device_or_node_name() returns, which causes a migration problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ignorant question #1: Can we multi-parent the filter node and
>>>>>> source-node? It looks like at the moment both consider their only parent
>>>>>> to be the block-job and don't have a link back to their parents otherwise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise: I have a lot of cloudy ideas on how to solve this, but
>>>>>> ultimately what we want is to be able to find the "addressable" name for
>>>>>> the node the bitmap is attached to, which would be the name of the first
>>>>>> ancestor node that isn't a filter. (OR, the name of the block-backend
>>>>>> above that node.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not the name of ancestor node, it will break mapping: it must be name of the
>>>>> node itself or name of parent (may be through several filters) block-backend
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A simple way to do this might be a "child_unfiltered" BdrvChild role
>>>>>> that simply bypasses the filter that was inserted and serves no real
>>>>>> purpose other than to allow the child to have a parent link and find who
>>>>>> it's """real""" parent is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because of flushing, reopen, sync, drain &c &c &c I'm not sure how
>>>>>> feasible this quick idea might be, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Corollary fix #1: call error_setg if the bitmap node name that's about
>>>>>> to go over the wire is an autogenerated node: this is never correct!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Why not? because the target is incapable of matching the node-name
>>>>>> because they are randomly generated AND you cannot specify node-names
>>>>>> with # prefixes as they are especially reserved!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (This raises a related problem: if you explicitly add bitmaps to nodes
>>>>>> with autogenerated names, you will be unable to migrate them.))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --js
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What about the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/block.c b/block.c
>>>>> index 5944124845..6739c19be9 100644
>>>>> --- a/block.c
>>>>> +++ b/block.c
>>>>> @@ -1009,8 +1009,20 @@ static void bdrv_inherited_options(int *child_flags, QDict *child_options,
>>>>> *child_flags = flags;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> +static const char *bdrv_child_get_name(BdrvChild *child)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> + BlockDriverState *parent = child->opaque;
>>>>> +
>>>>> + if (parent->drv && parent->drv->is_filter) {
>>>>> + return bdrv_get_parent_name(parent);
>>>>> + }
>>>>> +
>>>>> + return NULL;
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>
>>>> Why would we skip filters explicitly added by the user?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not? Otherwise migration of bitmaps will not work: we may have different set
>>> of filters on source and destination, and we still should map nodes with bitmaps
>>> automatically.
>>
>> Why would we have a different set of explicitly added filters on source
>> and destination and allow them to be automatically changed during
>> migration? Shouldn’t users only change them pre or post migration?
>
> We never made a requirement that the backend must be the same on the
> source and the destination. Basically, migration copies the state of
> frontends and the user is responsible for having these frontends created
> and connected to the right backends on the destination.
>
> Using different paths on the destination is a very obvious requirement
> for block devices. It's less obvious for the graph structure, but I
> don't see a reason why it couldn't change on migration. Say we were
> using local storage on the source, but now we did storage migration to
> some network storage, access to which should be throttled.
I don’t quite see why we couldn’t add such filters before or after
migration. And it was my impression that bitmap migration was a problem
now precisely because it is bound to the graph structure.
But anyway. I’ll gladly remove myself from this discussion because I
don’t know much about migration and actually I’d prefer to keep it that
way. (Sorry.)
Max
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-01 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-01 0:09 bitmap migration bug with -drive while block mirror runs John Snow
2019-10-01 4:28 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-01 9:07 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 8:57 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 9:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 10:05 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 13:24 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-01 15:09 ` John Snow
2019-10-01 15:58 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 16:12 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 16:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 16:23 ` John Snow
2019-10-01 11:45 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-01 9:17 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 14:00 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 14:10 ` John Snow
2019-10-01 15:57 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 16:07 ` John Snow
2019-10-02 8:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-02 10:46 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-02 11:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-02 12:22 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-02 13:48 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-02 13:43 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-02 14:03 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-02 21:35 ` John Snow
2019-10-03 10:14 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-03 23:34 ` John Snow
2019-10-04 8:33 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-04 9:21 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-06 3:15 ` John Snow
2019-10-04 9:24 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-04 13:07 ` Eric Blake
2019-10-06 3:19 ` John Snow
2019-10-01 16:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 16:17 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 14:13 ` Max Reitz
2019-10-01 14:27 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 14:34 ` Max Reitz
2019-10-01 14:53 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 15:26 ` Max Reitz
2019-10-02 7:34 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-01 15:09 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 15:27 ` Max Reitz [this message]
2019-10-01 16:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 16:17 ` Max Reitz
2019-10-01 16:22 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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