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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Anthony Perard" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel@redhat.com>,
	"Bharata B Rao" <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] qdev: Mark devices as non-hotpluggable by default
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:47:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d48ef387-dd66-727d-aa9e-b1786efd30e5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170921185028.GK21016@localhost.localdomain>

On 21.09.2017 20:50, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:55:53AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> Historically we've marked all devices as hotpluggable by default. However,
>> most devices are not hotpluggable, and you also need a HotplugHandler to
>> support these devices. So if the user tries to "device_add" or "device_del"
>> such a non-hotpluggable device during runtime, either nothing really usable
>> happens, or QEMU even crashes/aborts unexpectedly (see for example commit
>> 84ebd3e8c7d4fe955b - "Mark diag288 watchdog as non-hotpluggable").
>> So let's change this dangerous default behaviour and mark the devices as
>> non-hotpluggable by default. Certain parent devices classes which are known
>> as hotpluggable (e.g. PCI, USB, etc.) are marked with "hotpluggable = true",
>> so that devices that are derived from these classes continue to work as
>> expected.
> 
> These seem to be missing:
> * TYPE_CPU (or at least TYPE_X86_CPU and TYPE_S390_CPU)
> * TYPE_VIRTIO_SERIAL_PORT
> * TYPE_CCID_CARD
> * TYPE_XENSYSDEV

Thanks for the detailed examination, Eduardo! I'll rework my patch
accordingly...

> Also, I don't think we need to set it for TYPE_CPU_CORE, just for
> TYPE_SPAPR_CPU_CORE.

Ok - you're likely right. There is one other consumer of TYPE_CPU_CORE
beside spapr, which is the pnv machine, and as far as I can see, it does
not support CPU hotplugging yet. So it indeed makes more sense to set
this in TYPE_SPAPR_CPU_CORE only.

 Thomas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-19  8:55 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] qdev: Mark devices as non-hotpluggable by default Thomas Huth
2017-09-20  7:50 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2017-09-20 10:07   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-20 10:57     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2017-09-20 11:17       ` Thomas Huth
2017-09-20 16:10         ` Thomas Huth
2017-09-20 16:15           ` David Hildenbrand
2017-09-21  8:04           ` Igor Mammedov
2017-09-21 15:27 ` Anthony PERARD
2017-09-21 18:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-22  7:38   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-09-22  7:52     ` Thomas Huth
2017-09-22  7:47   ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2017-09-22 19:25     ` Cédric Le Goater

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