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From: Pierre Muller <pierre@freepascal.org>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 21/30] Deprecate 32 bit big-endian MIPS
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2022 12:10:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d63b636b-aaf5-461b-d83d-827ee41616b4@freepascal.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9b3aa9b3-f657-7087-9d4c-06e071f7da4d@linaro.org>



Le 16/09/2022 à 10:38, Richard Henderson a écrit :
> On 9/16/22 10:08, Pierre Muller wrote:
>>
>>     I am using gcc230 machine for the gcc compile farm.
>>
>>     This is a big endian mips64 machine runnig Debian Buster.
>>
>> When compiling the qemu 7.1.0 release source,
>> the generated binaries are 32-bit mips binaries,
>> and I did not find out how to generate a 64-bit versions
>> of the executables.
> 
> Yes, that host seems to have been installed with the o32 abi instead of the n64 (or n32) abi.

Indeed,
>>     As mips32 seems to still be the default arch that gcc uses,
>> I don't really understand the idea of depreciating big endian mips32.
>>
>> Is this solely related to cross-compilation issues?
> 
> Yes.  Even gcc230 is fairly small for actually compiling qemu, it takes many hours.  So
> for many hosts we rely on cross-compilation from x86_64.
> 
> For that, we rely on the set of cross-compilers built by Debian 11 (bullseye) plus (!) the
> host libraries for that platform.  We cannot simply rely on crossbuild-essential-mips
> because building qemu requires many more system libraries than just libc.
> 
> In https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/, you'll note that big-endian mips is not
> listed, so we are now missing those system libraries.

  So this is not limited to mips32, as big endian mips64 is also not supported anymore in bulleye...

> We are not intending to *remove* support for big-endian mips, as 99% of the code paths are
> shared with little-endian mips, which we can continue to test.  But we are now saying that
> big-endian mips is not "supported" and might break.

   Thank you for your answer and the clarifications!

Pierre


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-16 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-14 15:59 [PATCH v2 00/30] testing/next pre-PR (testing update and mips deprecation) Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/30] gitlab: reduce targets in cross_user_build_job Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:21   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/30] tests/avocado/boot_linux_console: Fix the test_aarch64_xlnx_versal_virt test Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/30] tests/avocado: add explicit timeout for Aarch64 TCG tests Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:21   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/30] tests/avocado: add explicit timeout for s390 " Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 20:29   ` Thomas Huth
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/30] tests/avocado: add explicit timeout for ppc64le " Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:22   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/30] tests/avocado: split the AST2x00Machine classes Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:24   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-20 15:07     ` Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/30] tests/avocado: reduce the default timeout to 120s Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:24   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-alpha-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-hppa-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-m68k-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-mips64-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-sh4-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 13/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-sparc64-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 14/30] tests/docker: flatten debian-powerpc-test-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 15/30] tests/docker: remove tricore qemu/debian10 dependency Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  7:40   ` Thomas Huth
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 16/30] tests/docker: remove amd64 " Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 17/30] tests/vm: Remove obsolete Fedora VM test Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 18/30] configure: explicitly set cflags for --disable-pie Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:27   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 19/30] gitlab-ci/custom-runners: Disable -static-pie for ubuntu-20.04-aarch64 Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  7:41   ` Thomas Huth
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 20/30] gitlab-ci: update aarch32/aarch64 custom runner jobs Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  7:42   ` Thomas Huth
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 21/30] Deprecate 32 bit big-endian MIPS Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:34   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-16  8:08     ` Pierre Muller
2022-09-16  8:38       ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-16 10:10         ` Pierre Muller [this message]
2022-09-16 10:22           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-16 15:20             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-09-16  9:33       ` Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 22/30] tests/docker: flatten debian-riscv64-test-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:35   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 23/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-all-test-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:36   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 24/30] tests/lcitool: bump to latest version Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 25/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-amd64-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 26/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-loongarch-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 27/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-hexagon-cross Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:39   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 28/30] tests/docker: update and flatten debian-toolchain Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:40   ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 29/30] tests/docker: remove FROM qemu/ support from docker.py Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:41   ` Richard Henderson
2022-10-29  9:38     ` Stefan Weil via
2022-10-29 19:46       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-29 21:13         ` Stefan Weil via
2022-10-30 14:17           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-14 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 30/30] tests/docker: remove the Debian base images Alex Bennée
2022-09-15  8:42   ` Richard Henderson

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