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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
To: Damien Hedde <damien.hedde@greensocs.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Alistair Francis" <alistair@alistair23.me>,
	"Mark Burton" <mark.burton@greensocs.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/9] qdev: add clock input&output support to devices.
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:53:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6937a23-d6d5-fe22-bc42-0bec543decf6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ac54ca8-4acf-5145-9ead-6791a5181617@greensocs.com>

On 12/4/19 10:05 AM, Damien Hedde wrote:
> On 12/2/19 3:34 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 13:56, Damien Hedde <damien.hedde@greensocs.com> wrote:
>>>
[...]
>>> +/**
>>> + * qdev_pass_clock:
>>> + * @dev: the device to forward the clock to
>>> + * @name: the name of the clock to be added (can't be NULL)
>>> + * @container: the device which already has the clock
>>> + * @cont_name: the name of the clock in the container device
>>> + *
>>> + * Add a clock @name to @dev which forward to the clock @cont_name in @container
>>> + */
>>
>> 'container' seems odd terminology here, because I would expect
>> the usual use of this function to be when a 'container' object
>> like an SoC wants to forward a clock to one of its components;
>> in that case the 'container' SoC would be @dev, wouldn't it?
> 
> Yes. I agree it is confusing.
> This function just allow a a device 'A' to exhibit a clock from another
> device 'B' (typically a composing sub-device, inside a soc like you
> said). The device A is not supposed to interact with the clock itself.
> The original sub-device is the true
> owner/controller of the clock and is the only one which should use the
> clock API: setting a callback on it (input clock); or updating the clock
> frequency (output clock).
> Basically, it just add the clock into the device clock namespace without
> interfering with it.
> 
>> We should get this to be the same way round as qdev_pass_gpios(),
>> which takes "DeviceState *dev, DeviceState *container", and
>> passes the gpios that exist on 'dev' over to 'container' so that
>> 'container' now has gpios which it did not before.
> 
> Ok, I'll invert the arguments.
> 
>>
>> Also, your use of 'forward to' is inconsistent: in the 'dev'
>> documentation you say we're forwarding the clock to 'dev',
>> but in the body of the documentation you say we're forwarding
>> the clock to the clock in 'container'.
> 
> I'll try to clarify this and make the documentation more consistent with
> the comments here.
> 
>>
>> I think the way to resolve this is to stick to the terminology
>> in the function name itself:
>>   @dev: the device which has the clock
>>   @name: the name of the clock on @dev
>>   @container: the name of the device which the clock should
>>    be passed to
>>   @cont_name: the name to use for the clock on @container
> 
> I think container is confusing because depending on how we reason (clock
> in a device; device in another device), we end up thinking the opposite.
> 
> Maybe we can use "exhibit" instead of "container" in the 2nd pair of
> parameters, or prefix use "origin" or "owner" as a prefix for the first
> pair of parameters.

@sink vs @source?

>> Q: if you pass a clock to another device with this function,
>> does it still exist to be used directly on the original
>> device? For qdev_pass_gpios it does not (I think), but
>> this is more accident of implementation than anything else.
> 
> It depends what we mean by "used by".
> Original device can:
> + set the callback in case it is an input
> + update the frequency in case it is an output

Hmm here you use @input vs @output...

> But since an input clock can only be connected once,
> I think the logic here is that any connection should now go through the
> new device. But this is not checked and using one or the other is
> exactly the same.
> 
> Maybe I misunderstood the meaning of qdev_pass_gpios().
[...]



  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-04 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-04 12:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 0/9] Clock framework API Damien Hedde
2019-09-04 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 1/9] hw/core/clock: introduce clock objects Damien Hedde
2019-11-25 13:07   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-11-25 13:37   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-03 15:14     ` Damien Hedde
2019-12-02 13:42   ` Peter Maydell
2019-12-03 15:28     ` Damien Hedde
2019-09-04 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 2/9] hw/core/clock-vmstate: define a vmstate entry for clock state Damien Hedde
2019-11-25 13:05   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-02 13:44   ` Peter Maydell
2019-09-04 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 3/9] qdev: add clock input&output support to devices Damien Hedde
2019-11-25 13:30   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-03 15:35     ` Damien Hedde
2019-12-02 14:34   ` Peter Maydell
2019-12-04  9:05     ` Damien Hedde
2019-12-04  9:53       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2019-12-04 11:58         ` Damien Hedde
2019-09-04 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 4/9] qdev-monitor: print the device's clock with info qtree Damien Hedde
2019-12-02 14:35   ` Peter Maydell
2019-09-04 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 5/9] qdev-clock: introduce an init array to ease the device construction Damien Hedde
2019-12-02 15:13   ` Peter Maydell
2019-12-04 11:04     ` Damien Hedde
2019-09-04 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 6/9] docs/clocks: add device's clock documentation Damien Hedde
2019-12-02 15:17   ` Peter Maydell
2019-12-04 12:11     ` Damien Hedde
2019-09-04 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 7/9] hw/misc/zynq_slcr: add clock generation for uarts Damien Hedde
2019-12-02 15:20   ` Peter Maydell
2019-12-04 12:51     ` Damien Hedde
2019-09-04 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 8/9] hw/char/cadence_uart: add clock support Damien Hedde
2019-12-02 15:24   ` Peter Maydell
2019-12-04 13:35     ` Damien Hedde
2019-09-04 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 9/9] hw/arm/xilinx_zynq: connect uart clocks to slcr Damien Hedde
2019-12-02 15:34   ` Peter Maydell
2019-12-03 14:59     ` Damien Hedde
2019-12-03 15:29       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-02 16:15 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] Clock framework API Peter Maydell
2019-12-04 16:40   ` Damien Hedde
2019-12-04 20:34     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-05  9:36       ` Damien Hedde
2019-12-05  9:59         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-05 10:21           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-12-05 10:44             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-05 10:56               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-12-05 11:01                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-06 12:46                   ` Cleber Rosa
2019-12-06 13:48                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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