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From: James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: thomas.lendacky@amd.com, Ashish Kalra <Ashish.Kalra@amd.com>,
	brijesh.singh@amd.com, ehabkost@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	mst@redhat.com, Steve Rutherford <srutherford@google.com>,
	richard.henderson@linaro.org, tobin@ibm.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, frankeh@us.ibm.com,
	Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum <tobin@linux.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	dovmurik@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/13] Add support for Mirror VM.
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 15:10:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6eb8f7ff2d78296b5ba3a20d1dc9640f4bb8fa5.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YR5qka5aoJqlouhO@work-vm>

On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 15:28 +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * James Bottomley (jejb@linux.ibm.com) wrote:
> > On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 09:22 +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
[...]
> > > I think it really does have to cope with migration to a new
> > > version of host.
> > 
> > Well, you're thinking of OVMF as belonging to the host because of
> > the way it is supplied, but think about the way it works in
> > practice now, forgetting about confidential computing: OVMF is RAM
> > resident in ordinary guests, so when you migrate them, the whole of
> > OVMF (or at least what's left at runtime) goes with the migration,
> > thus it's not possible to change the guest OVMF by migration.  The
> > above is really just an extension of that principle, the only
> > difference for confidential computing being you have to have an
> > image of the current OVMF ROM in the target to seed migration.
> > 
> > Technically, the problem is we can't overwrite running code and
> > once the guest is re-sited to the target, the OVMF there has to
> > match exactly what was on the source for the RT to still
> > function.   Once the migration has run, the OVMF on the target must
> > be identical to what was on the source (including internally
> > allocated OVMF memory), and if we can't copy the MH code, we have
> > to rely on the target image providing this identical code and we
> > copy the rest.
> 
> I'm OK with the OVMF now being part of the guest image, and having to
> exist on both; it's a bit delicate though unless we have a way to
> check it (is there an attest of the destination happening here?)

There will be in the final version.  The attestations of the source and
target, being the hash of the OVMF (with the registers in the -ES
case), should be the same (modulo any firmware updates to the PSP,
whose firmware version is also hashed) to guarantee the OVMF is the
same on both sides.  We'll definitely take an action to get QEMU to
verify this ... made a lot easier now we have signed attestations ...

James




  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-19 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-16 13:25 [RFC PATCH 00/13] Add support for Mirror VM Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:26 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] machine: Add mirrorvcpus=N suboption to -smp Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 21:23   ` Eric Blake
2021-08-16 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] hw/boards: Add mirror_vcpu flag to CPUArchId Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] hw/i386: Mark mirror vcpus in possible_cpus Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] hw/acpi: Don't include mirror vcpus in ACPI tables Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:28 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] cpu: Add boolean mirror_vcpu field to CPUState Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:28 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] hw/i386: Set CPUState.mirror_vcpu=true for mirror vcpus Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:29 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] kvm: Add Mirror VM ioctl and enable cap interfaces Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:29 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] kvm: Add Mirror VM support Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:29 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] kvm: create Mirror VM and share primary VM's encryption context Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:30 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] softmmu/cpu: Skip mirror vcpu's for pause, resume and synchronization Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:30 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] kvm/apic: Disable in-kernel APIC support for mirror vcpu's Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:31 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] hw/acpi: disable modern CPU hotplug interface " Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 13:31 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] hw/i386/pc: reduce fw_cfg boot cpu count taking into account " Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] Add support for Mirror VM Claudio Fontana
2021-08-16 14:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 14:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-16 15:00     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 15:16       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-16 15:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 14:44   ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 14:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 15:13       ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-16 15:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 15:48           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 10:31           ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-18 11:25             ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 15:31               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 15:35                 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 15:43                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 16:28                     ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 17:30                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 18:51                         ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 19:47             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 17:23   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-16 20:53     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-16 23:53 ` Steve Rutherford
2021-08-17  7:05   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-17  8:38   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 14:08     ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-17 16:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-17 20:50     ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-17 22:04       ` Steve Rutherford
2021-08-18 15:32         ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-18 19:04           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 21:42             ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-19  8:22               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-19 14:06                 ` James Bottomley
2021-08-19 14:28                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-19 22:10                     ` James Bottomley [this message]
2021-08-23 12:26                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-23 16:28                         ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-19 14:07                 ` Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum
2021-08-17 23:20       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-17 21:54     ` Steve Rutherford
2021-08-17 22:37       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-08-17 22:57         ` James Bottomley
2021-08-17 23:10           ` Steve Rutherford
2021-08-18  2:49             ` James Bottomley
2021-08-18 14:06         ` Ashish Kalra
2021-08-18 17:07           ` Ashish Kalra
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2021-08-16 15:07 Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum

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