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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developer <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call for 2017-03-14
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 11:44:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db6cb6b2-d618-b158-9ac8-955375093b9b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-Qb2fp1kvksE4gBc+-1s29swwqTApFTcaMXnTO7aWDcg@mail.gmail.com>



On 14/03/2017 11:39, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> 3. Is it safer than C even when writing code to operate on guest RAM
>>    (i.e. it's no good if you must use unsafe primitives to do the
>>    systems programming tasks that QEMU requires)?
> My impression is that many of our security vulnerabilities are
> overflows in local arrays in the device emulation (for instance
> good old VENOM), so I think that even if a candidate safer
> language only provided bounds-checking on arrays it knew about
> and not on raw guest RAM it would still be a significant
> improvement. (Accesses to guest RAM are often via APIs that
> we could add bounds-checks to "by hand" anyway.) 

Right, this was one of the reasons behind the introduction of
MemoryRegionCache: get both speed (like address_space_map) and bounds
checking (like address_space_rw).

It looks like it should be easy to wrap it in any language, be it Rust
or a scripting language like Lua.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-14 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-12 20:45 [Qemu-devel] KVM call for 2017-03-14 Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 10:02 ` Peter Maydell
2017-03-13 12:50   ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-13 14:12   ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 14:17     ` Peter Maydell
2017-03-14  8:03     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-03-14  8:13   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-03-14  8:37     ` Peter Maydell
2017-03-14  8:59       ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-14 10:56         ` Peter Maydell
2017-03-15  8:39           ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-03-15 10:29           ` Greg Kurz
2017-03-15 11:25             ` Laurent Vivier
2017-03-15 16:35               ` Greg Kurz
2017-03-14 16:01         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-14 16:20           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-14 16:54             ` [Qemu-devel] Obsolete QEMU host environments (was: Re: KVM call for 2017-03-14) Thomas Huth
2017-03-14 17:07               ` Peter Maydell
2017-03-14 21:09                 ` [Qemu-devel] Obsolete QEMU host environments Richard Henderson
2017-03-15  9:40                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-15 10:02                     ` Thomas Huth
2017-03-15 15:46                   ` Aurelien Jarno
2017-03-14 17:14             ` [Qemu-devel] KVM call for 2017-03-14 Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-14 17:18           ` Peter Maydell
2017-03-14 17:29             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-15  8:30               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-03-14  9:33       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-03-14  8:53     ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-14 10:39     ` Peter Maydell
2017-03-14 10:44       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2017-03-14  9:24   ` Thomas Huth
2017-03-14 10:13     ` Kevin Wolf
2017-03-14 12:20       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-03-14 12:35         ` Kevin Wolf
2017-03-14 10:32     ` Peter Maydell

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