From: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
To: Han Zhang <ihanzhzh@gmail.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: stefanha@redhat.com, tfanelli@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [GSoC 2026] vhost-user memory isolation proposal feedback request
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2026 17:40:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <db80a6cc-2e77-4da4-980f-20a63f398eb8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHjCdDAJomXwQ8Z0kkiDGn_8hLWredsby3Nwy4rRgeC9sywc8A@mail.gmail.com>
On 09.03.26 12:17, Han Zhang wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My name is Han. I previously implemented a virtio-based communication
> mechanism between confidential virtual machines, and based on that
> experience I would like to apply for the QEMU GSoC 2026 project
> "vhost-user memory isolation". Before finalizing my proposal, I would
> like to check whether my understanding of the project direction is
> correct.
Hello Han!
Thank you for your interest in this project, good to hear you already
have experience with virtio!
> My current understanding is:
> without changing the existing vhost-user protocol, add a
> memory-isolation mode for vhost-user devices so the backend no longer
> directly accesses guest RAM. Instead, QEMU intercepts virtqueue
> requests, copies data between guest RAM and isolated buffers, and
> forwards notifications. The backend only sees QEMU-managed shadow
> virtqueues and descriptors pointing to isolated buffers.
That is correct.
> After reading the relevant code paths around vhost-user-blk and SVQ,
> my current understanding of the required work is roughly:
> 1. Extend the generic SVQ path for the vhost-user case, including
> adding a used_handler so completion handling can perform copy-back and
> cleanup before returning requests to the guest virtqueue.
You mean used_handler as a counterpart to avail_handler? That makes
sense indeed.
> 2. Move the SVQ vring memory to memfd-backed shared regions and
> register them with the backend through add-mem-reg/rem-mem-reg, so the
> userspace backend can access the shadow vring.
That must happen in some capacity, although I would have assumed that
there is already a mechanism for this, for the vring memory itself.
> 3. Allocate bounce or isolated buffers at the SVQ callback point, copy
> data from the guest virtqueue into those buffers, forward rewritten
> descriptors to the backend, and copy data back on completion.
Right. And these too would need to be shared with the back-end, too.
Ideally, they are cached, of course, to reduce the number of buffer
add/remove functions that need to be run.
> I am mainly trying to validate whether this is the right architectural
> direction, especially the split between generic reusable vhost-user
> SVQ code and device-specific handling such as the vhost-user-blk
> bounce-buffer path.
>
> I would appreciate feedback on the following:
> 1. Is this interpretation of the core goal correct, especially "QEMU
> performs data copy, backend only sees isolated memory + SVQ"?
Yes, it is.
> 2. For isolated buffers, is qemu_memfd_alloc + add-mem-reg the
> preferred direction, or is there a better approach?
I’ll defer to Tyler and Stefan on this, but in general, I would say if
it works, it works. It does sound good to me, fwiw.
> 3. For code organization, what split is preferred between generic
> vhost-user code and device-specific code (for example vhost-user-blk)?
Ideally, it is completely generic, nothing in the device-specific code.
> This is my first time participating in an open source project, so I
> would greatly appreciate any correction or guidance.
Perfect for GSoC! :)
Hanna
> Thank you very much for your time.
>
> Best regards,
> Han
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-09 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-09 11:17 [GSoC 2026] vhost-user memory isolation proposal feedback request Han Zhang
2026-03-09 16:40 ` Hanna Czenczek [this message]
2026-03-24 17:26 ` Hanna Czenczek
2026-03-25 2:11 ` Han Zhang
2026-03-25 16:27 ` Hanna Czenczek
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