From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com>,
"Dave Anderson" <anderson@redhat.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
QEMU <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/8] acpi: add vmcoreinfo device
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 17:55:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dba81848-4827-9491-e5cd-cba276527dfa@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+F1CLH6R7jfQNsTdeUyDB8JsNjvpK1eAcpviiLMwZtr07M_g@mail.gmail.com>
On 07/28/17 16:52, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> Hi Dave
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 01:47:50AM +0200, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There's more info scattered in other places.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you get to document it? Because you are the one exposing it
>>>> across the hypervisor/vm boundary where it will need to be
>>>> understood by people/tools not running within guest.
>>>>
>>>> So "just read the script in qemu source" is not how an interface
>>>> should be documented.
>>>
>>> I don't understand the issue, it's a kernel ELF note that qemu passes
>>> for dump/crash tools in the dump headers/sections.
>>
>> The way it looks to me, this patchset is exposing an internal kernel
>> detail and making it part of ABI maybe it already is, my point was 1.
>> should we get a confirmation from upstream it's not going to change? 2.
>> if it's ABI let's document what do we expect to be there.
>
>
> Could you help explain the expectations and stability guarantees of
> vmcoreinfo ELF note ?
>
> I am a bit stuck here, after all, vmcoreinfo is mostly used by crash
> so I thought you could help.
>
> The only thing qemu does with it is try to get NUMBER(phys_base)=
> field to update the phys_base used in the various dump headers. (this
> could be dropped, and qemu ignoring the note content, if the debug
> tools take vmcoreinfo values with higher priority than other header
> fields)
I agree; if "crash" guarantees that the vmcoreinfo note will override
whatever phys_base value QEMU may have guessed otherwise (from other
places) and written to some dedicated phys_base header fields, then in
QEMU we don't have to propagate phys_base from the vmcoreinfo note to
said other fields -- we can treat the vmcoreinfo note entirely opaquely.
Thanks
Laszlo
>
>> But again since there's not a whole lot of documentation here
>> that you provided, I might be misunderstanding completely.
>
> Because there isn't much available in the kernel either, except
> Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-vmcoreinfo.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-28 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-14 18:20 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/8] KASLR kernel dump support Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 1/8] vmgenid: replace x-write-pointer-available hack Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 19:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/8] acpi: add vmcoreinfo device Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 19:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 20:04 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-14 20:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 22:12 ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 23:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 23:30 ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 23:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 23:47 ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-26 17:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-28 14:52 ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-28 15:55 ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2017-08-07 15:44 ` Dave Anderson
2017-07-14 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 3/8] stubs: add vmcoreinfo_get() stub Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 20:09 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-14 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 4/8] tests: add simple vmcoreinfo test Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 20:10 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-14 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 5/8] dump: add vmcoreinfo ELF note Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 6/8] kdump: " Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 7/8] scripts/dump-guest-memory.py: add vmcoreinfo Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 8/8] MAINTAINERS: add Dump maintainers Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 19:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/8] KASLR kernel dump support Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 20:21 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-14 22:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 22:31 ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-14 23:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-18 13:29 ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-18 16:05 ` Ladi Prosek
2017-07-18 16:18 ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-07-19 6:06 ` Ladi Prosek
2017-07-14 23:36 ` no-reply
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