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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta.linux@gmail.com>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	teawater <teawaterz@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Marek Kedzierski <mkedzier@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/9] vfio: Support for RamDiscardMgr in the !vIOMMU case
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 11:07:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc19808f-61f6-4ccc-1d23-12e4af1c8fec@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201202162633.27cb15b6@w520.home>

On 03.12.20 00:26, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 16:39:13 +0100
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> Implement support for RamDiscardMgr, to prepare for virtio-mem
>> support. Instead of mapping the whole memory section, we only map
>> "populated" parts and update the mapping when notified about
>> discarding/population of memory via the RamDiscardListener. Similarly, when
>> syncing the dirty bitmaps, sync only the actually mapped (populated) parts
>> by replaying via the notifier.
>>
>> Small mapping granularity is problematic for vfio, because we might run out
>> of mappings. Warn to at least make users aware that there is such a
>> limitation and that we are dealing with a setup issue e.g., of
>> virtio-mem devices.
>>
>> Using virtio-mem with vfio is still blocked via
>> ram_block_discard_disable()/ram_block_discard_require() after this patch.
>>
>> Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>> Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta.linux@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@linux.alibaba.com>
>> Cc: teawater <teawaterz@linux.alibaba.com>
>> Cc: Marek Kedzierski <mkedzier@redhat.com>
>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>  hw/vfio/common.c              | 233 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  include/hw/vfio/vfio-common.h |  12 ++
>>  2 files changed, 245 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/hw/vfio/common.c b/hw/vfio/common.c
>> index c1fdbf17f2..d52e7356cb 100644
>> --- a/hw/vfio/common.c
>> +++ b/hw/vfio/common.c
> ...
>> +static void vfio_register_ram_discard_notifier(VFIOContainer *container,
>> +                                               MemoryRegionSection *section)
>> +{
>> +    RamDiscardMgr *rdm = memory_region_get_ram_discard_mgr(section->mr);
>> +    RamDiscardMgrClass *rdmc = RAM_DISCARD_MGR_GET_CLASS(rdm);
>> +    MachineState *ms = MACHINE(qdev_get_machine());
>> +    uint64_t suggested_granularity;
>> +    VFIORamDiscardListener *vrdl;
>> +    int ret;
>> +
>> +    vrdl = g_new0(VFIORamDiscardListener, 1);
>> +    vrdl->container = container;
>> +    vrdl->mr = section->mr;
>> +    vrdl->offset_within_region = section->offset_within_region;
>> +    vrdl->offset_within_address_space = section->offset_within_address_space;
>> +    vrdl->size = int128_get64(section->size);
>> +    vrdl->granularity = rdmc->get_min_granularity(rdm, section->mr);
>> +
>> +    /* Ignore some corner cases not relevant in practice. */
>> +    g_assert(QEMU_IS_ALIGNED(vrdl->offset_within_region, TARGET_PAGE_SIZE));
>> +    g_assert(QEMU_IS_ALIGNED(vrdl->offset_within_address_space,
>> +                             TARGET_PAGE_SIZE));
>> +    g_assert(QEMU_IS_ALIGNED(vrdl->size, TARGET_PAGE_SIZE));
>> +
>> +    /*
>> +     * We assume initial RAM never has a RamDiscardMgr and that all memory
>> +     * to eventually get hotplugged later could be coordinated via a
>> +     * RamDiscardMgr ("worst case").
>> +     *
>> +     * We assume the Linux kernel is configured ("dma_entry_limit") for the
>> +     * maximum of 65535 mappings and that we can consume roughly half of that
> 
> 
> s/maximum/default/
> 
> Deciding we should only use half of it seems arbitrary.

Yeah, it's sub-optimal - bad heuristic :) . What would be your
suggestion for a better heuristic? My gut feeling would be that we
rarely use more than 512 mappings in the system address space (e.g.,
maximum number of DIMMs is 256).

> 
> 
>> +     * for this purpose.
>> +     *
>> +     * In reality, we might also have RAM without a RamDiscardMgr in our device
>> +     * memory region and might be able to consume more mappings.
>> +     */
>> +    suggested_granularity = pow2ceil((ms->maxram_size - ms->ram_size) / 32768);
>> +    suggested_granularity = MAX(suggested_granularity, 1 * MiB);
>> +    if (vrdl->granularity < suggested_granularity) {
>> +        warn_report("%s: eventually problematic mapping granularity (%" PRId64
>> +                    " MiB) with coordinated discards (e.g., 'block-size' in"
>> +                    " virtio-mem). Suggested minimum granularity: %" PRId64
>> +                    " MiB", __func__, vrdl->granularity / MiB,
>> +                    suggested_granularity / MiB);
>> +    }
> 
> 
> Starting w/ kernel 5.10 we have a way to get the instantaneous count of
> available DMA mappings, so we could avoid assuming 64k when that's
> available (see ex. s390_pci_update_dma_avail()). 

Interesting, I missed that interface. Will have a look. TThanks!


-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-03 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-19 15:39 [PATCH v1 0/9] virtio-mem: vfio support David Hildenbrand
2020-11-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] memory: Introduce RamDiscardMgr for RAM memory regions David Hildenbrand
2020-12-02 23:26   ` Alex Williamson
2020-12-03 10:04     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] virtio-mem: Factor out traversing unplugged ranges David Hildenbrand
2020-11-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] virtio-mem: Implement RamDiscardMgr interface David Hildenbrand
2020-11-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] vfio: Support for RamDiscardMgr in the !vIOMMU case David Hildenbrand
2020-12-02 23:26   ` Alex Williamson
2020-12-03 10:07     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-11-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] vfio: Support for RamDiscardMgr in the vIOMMU case David Hildenbrand
2020-11-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] softmmu/physmem: Don't use atomic operations in ram_block_discard_(disable|require) David Hildenbrand
2020-11-19 20:34   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] softmmu/physmem: Extend ram_block_discard_(require|disable) by two discard types David Hildenbrand
2020-11-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] virtio-mem: Require only coordinated discards David Hildenbrand
2020-11-30 17:20   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] vfio: Disable only uncoordinated discards David Hildenbrand
2020-11-23 11:31 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] virtio-mem: vfio support David Hildenbrand

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