From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com, famz@redhat.com,
stefanha@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/19] block: Really pause block jobs on drain
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 15:42:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc693c45-e1dc-5a3d-3c95-adcb946c65d6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180412132735.GD5004@localhost.localdomain>
On 12/04/2018 15:27, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Not sure I follow. Let's look at an example. Say, we have a block job
> BlockBackend as the root (because that uses proper layering, unlike
> devices which use aio_disable_external()), connected to a qcow2 node
> over file.
>
> 1. The block job issues a request to the qcow2 node
>
> 2. In order to process that request, the qcow2 node internally issues
> one or more requests to the file node
>
> 3. Someone calls bdrv_drained_begin(qcow2_node)
>
> 4. We call BlockDriver.bdrv_drained_begin() for qcow2_node and
> file_node, and BdrvChildRole.drained_begin() for the block job.
>
> Now the block nodes don't create any new original requests any more
> (qcow2 and file don't do that anyway; qcow2 only creates requests to
> its children in the context of parent requests). The job potentially
> continues sending requests until it reaches the next pause point. The
> previously issued requests are still in flight.
>
> Is this step what you meant by X->drv->bdrv_drain(X)? I don't see why
> pending requests can only be in X's children. Why can't the request
> be pending in X itself, say waiting for a thread pool worker
> decrypting a buffer?
No, that step is ->bdrv_co_drain_begin in BlockDriver. It's where the
"last" requests are sent to file_node after we know that qcow2_node
won't get any more requests.
> Also, note that after this series, the driver callbacks are called
> asynchronously, but I don't think it makes a big difference here.
>
> 5. The file_node request completes. file_node doesn't have any requests
> in flight any more, but in theory it could still get new requests
> from qcow2_node. Anyway, let's say this is the last request, so I
> think we'd call its requests concluded?
No, if it can still get more requests they're not concluded. That's why
we need to first ensure qcow2_node is quiescent, and before then we need
to ensure that the BlockBackends are quiescent (in this case meaning the
job has reached its pause point). Only then we can look at file_node.
In this case we'll see that we have nothing to do---file_node is already
quiescent---and bdrv_drained_begin() can return.
> 6. qcow2 still has a request in flight, but doesn't need to access
> file_node for it. It finishes the work and therefore concludes its
> requests as well. Note that qcow2_node (the parent) concludes after
> file_node (the child).
>
> 7. We'll keep the example simple, so after completion of its request,
> the job reaches a pause point without sending a new request. Again,
> this happens after qcow2_node has concluded.
>
> 8. Only when neither file_node nor qcow2_node have a request in flight
> and the job has reached a pause point, bdrv_drained_begin() can
> return.
>
> So completing the last request and reaching an actually quiescent state
> looks very much like a process in child-to-parent order to me?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-12 13:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-11 16:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/19] Drain fixes and cleanups, part 3 Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/19] test-bdrv-drain: bdrv_drain() works with cross-AioContext events Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/19] block: Use bdrv_do_drain_begin/end in bdrv_drain_all() Kevin Wolf
2018-04-20 7:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/19] block: Remove 'recursive' parameter from bdrv_drain_invoke() Kevin Wolf
2018-04-20 7:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/19] block: Don't manually poll in bdrv_drain_all() Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 18:32 ` Eric Blake
2018-04-20 7:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/19] tests/test-bdrv-drain: bdrv_drain_all() works in coroutines now Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 18:33 ` Eric Blake
2018-04-20 7:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/19] block: Avoid unnecessary aio_poll() in AIO_WAIT_WHILE() Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 17:33 ` Su Hang
2018-04-20 7:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/19] block: Really pause block jobs on drain Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 8:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-12 9:51 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 10:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-12 11:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 11:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-12 11:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 12:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-12 13:27 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 13:42 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-04-12 14:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 20:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-13 8:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-04-13 11:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-13 12:40 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/19] block: Remove bdrv_drain_recurse() Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 8:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-20 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/19] test-bdrv-drain: Add test for node deletion Kevin Wolf
2018-04-20 7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/19] block: Drain recursively with a single BDRV_POLL_WHILE() Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 8:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/19] test-bdrv-drain: Test node deletion in subtree recursion Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/19] block: Don't poll in parent drain callbacks Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/19] test-bdrv-drain: Graph change through parent callback Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/19] block: Defer .bdrv_drain_begin callback to polling phase Kevin Wolf
2018-06-27 14:30 ` Max Reitz
2018-06-29 15:14 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/19] test-bdrv-drain: Test that bdrv_drain_invoke() doesn't poll Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/19] block: Allow AIO_WAIT_WHILE with NULL ctx Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 8:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/19] block: Move bdrv_drain_all_begin() out of coroutine context Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/19] block: Allow graph changes in bdrv_drain_all_begin/end sections Kevin Wolf
2018-04-12 8:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-11 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/19] test-bdrv-drain: Test graph changes in drain_all section Kevin Wolf
2018-04-11 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/19] Drain fixes and cleanups, part 3 no-reply
2018-04-20 7:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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