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From: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: "Lukáš Doktor" <ldoktor@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, clg@kaod.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spapr: Fix VSMT mode when it is not supported by the kernel
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:58:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dca0547d-460d-c9c6-f7db-6343472c2a39@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191120114128.GN5582@umbus.fritz.box>

On 20/11/2019 12:41, David Gibson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:28:19PM +0100, Laurent Vivier wrote:
>> On 20/11/2019 10:00, Laurent Vivier wrote:
>>> On 20/11/2019 05:36, David Gibson wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 04:45:26PM +0100, Greg Kurz wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 15:06:51 +0100
>>>>> Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/11/2019 02:00, David Gibson wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2019 at 05:47:59PM +0100, Greg Kurz wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri,  8 Nov 2019 16:40:35 +0100
>>>>>>>> Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Commit 29cb4187497d sets by default the VSMT to smp_threads,
>>>>>>>>> but older kernels (< 4.13) don't support that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We can reasonably restore previous behavior with this kernel
>>>>>>>>> to allow to run QEMU as before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If VSMT is not supported, VSMT will be set to MAX(8, smp_threads)
>>>>>>>>> as it is done for previous machine types (< pseries-4.2)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is usually _bad_ to base the machine behavior on host capabilities.
>>>>>>>> What happens if we migrate between an older kernel and a recent one ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right.  We're really trying to remove instaces of such behaviour.  I'd
>>>>>>> prefer to completely revert Greg's original patch than to re-introduce
>>>>>>> host configuration dependency into the guest configuration..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand this is to fix tests/migration-test on older kernels.
>>>>>>>> Couldn't this be achieved with migration-test doing some introspection
>>>>>>>> and maybe pass vsmt=8 on the QEMU command line ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ..adjusting the test case like this might be a better idea, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the test setup where we're using the old kernel?  I really only
>>>>>>> applied the original patch on the guess that we didn't really care
>>>>>>> about kernels that old.  The fact you've hit this in practice makes me
>>>>>>> doubt that assumption.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way to fix the tests is to add "-smp threads=8" on the command line
>>>>>> (for all tests, so basically in qtest_init_without_qmp_handshake(), and
>>>>>> it will impact all the machine types), and we have to check if it is
>>>>>
>>>>> Ohhh... it isn't possible to initialize Qtest with machine specific
>>>>> properties ? That's a bit unfortunate :-\
>>>>
>>>> Uhh... I don't see why we can't.  Couldn't we just put either -machine
>>>> vsmt=8 or -smp 8 into the cmd_src / cmd_dst printfs() in the
>>>> strcmp(arch, "ppc64") case?
>>>
>>> Yes, but we need to do that to all other tests that fail. test-migration
>>> is not the only one impacted by the problem (we have also pxe-test), so
>>> it's why I thought to fix the problem in a generic place.
>>>
>>> But it seems there are only this couple of tests that are impacted so I
>>> can modify both instead. I think only tests that really start CPU have
>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> I'm going to send a patch to fix that.
>>
>> And again, it's a little bit more complicated than expected: setting
>> vsmt to 8 works only with kvm_hv, but breaks in case of TCG or kvm_pr.
>> So the test must check what is in use...
> 
> Ugh, yeah, that's getting too ugly.  I think the feasible options are
> either to revert the patch, or just say that upstream qemu no longer
> supports a RHEL7 host.
> 

I'm going to send my patch, and you'll be able to judge by yourself.

Thanks,
Laurent



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-20 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-08 15:40 [PATCH] spapr: Fix VSMT mode when it is not supported by the kernel Laurent Vivier
2019-11-08 16:47 ` Greg Kurz
2019-11-08 17:03   ` Laurent Vivier
2019-11-08 17:23     ` Greg Kurz
2019-11-19  1:00   ` David Gibson
2019-11-19 14:06     ` Laurent Vivier
2019-11-19 15:45       ` Greg Kurz
2019-11-19 16:13         ` Lukáš Doktor
2019-11-20  4:39           ` David Gibson
2019-11-20  4:36         ` David Gibson
2019-11-20  7:49           ` Greg Kurz
2019-11-20  9:00           ` Laurent Vivier
2019-11-20 11:28             ` Laurent Vivier
2019-11-20 11:41               ` David Gibson
2019-11-20 11:58                 ` Laurent Vivier [this message]
2019-11-20 14:28                 ` Laurent Vivier
2019-11-21  2:02                   ` David Gibson
2019-11-20 12:47               ` Greg Kurz
2019-11-20 13:35                 ` Laurent Vivier

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