Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Laszlo Ersek]

(CC Gerd, Qiming, Marcel, qemu-devel for ramfb:)

On 04/14/20 23:20, valerij zaporogeci wrote:

[snip]

> There is a Boot Manager UI display problem, I don't know if this is
> qemu problem, but with the ARM (both 32 and 64 bits, the qemu version
> is 4.2.0, the OVMF is fresh), and using "ramfb" device, the Boot
> Manager has troubles with drawing - it's interfase looks entirely
> broken, like this (I'll try to attach the screenshot). UEFI shell
> doesn't have this problem. switching to "serial" (which is -serial vc)
> doesn't produce it too. Only when ramfb is chosen, the Boot Manager UI
> gets smeared. But it takes input and presumable works properly, except
> displaying things. qemu writes these messages in the command prompt:
> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 640x480 @ 0x4bd00000
> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected
> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 800x600 @ 0x4bd00000
> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected

Gerd contributed the OVMF QemuRamfbDxe driver in edk2 commit
1d25ff51af5c ("OvmfPkg: add QemuRamfbDxe", 2018-06-14). Note the date:
June 2018.

The then-latest (released) QEMU version was v2.12.0, and v2.12.1 /
v3.0.0 were in the making.

At that time, the resolution change definitely worked -- note my
"Tested-by" on the edk2 commit message.


Running "git blame" on the QEMU source, I now find commit a9e0cb67b7f4
("hw/display/ramfb: lock guest resolution after it's set", 2019-05-24).

Again, note the date: May 2019 (and this commit was released with QEMU
v4.1.0).

So I would say that the symptom you see is a QEMU v4.1.0 regression. The
QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() function in the OVMF ramfb driver
certainly needs the QemuFwCfgWriteBytes() call to work, for changing the
resolution.


Now, I'm not familiar with the reasons behind QEMU commit a9e0cb67b7f4.
It says it intends to "prevent[] a crash when the guest writes garbage
to the configuration space (e.g. when rebooting)".

But I don't understand why locking the resolution was necessary for
preventing "a crash":

(1) Registering a device reset handler in QEMU seems sufficient, so that
QEMU forget about the currently shared RAMFB area at platform reset.

(2) The crash in question is apparently not a *QEMU* crash -- which
might otherwise justify a heavy-handed approach. Instead, it is a
*guest* crash. See the references below:

(2a) http://mid.mail-archive.com/CABSdmrmU7FK90Bupq_ySowcc9Uk=8nQxNLHgzvDsNYdp_QLogA@mail.gmail.com
     https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-05/msg02299.html

(2b) https://github.com/intel/gvt-linux/issues/23#issuecomment-483651476

Therefore, I don't think that locking the resolution was justified!

Importantly:

- The QemuRamfbDxe driver allocates the framebuffer in *reserved*
memory, therefore any well-behaving OS will *never* touch the
framebuffer.

- The QemuRamfbDxe driver allocates the framebuffer memory only once,
namely for such a resolution that needs the largest amount of
framebuffer memory. Therefore, framebuffer re-allocations in the guest
driver -- and thereby guest RAM *re-mapping* in QEMU -- are *not*
necessary, upon resolution change.

The ramfb device reset handler in QEMU is justified (for unmapping /
forgetting the previously shared RAMFB area).

The resolution locking is *NOT* justified, and it breaks the OVMF
driver. I suggest backing out the resolution locking from QEMU.

Reference (2a) above indicates 'It could be a misguided attempt to
"resize ramfb" by the guest Intel driver'. If that is the case, then
please fix the Intel guest driver, without regressing the QEMU device
model.

I'm sad that the QEMU device model change was not regression-tested
against the *upstream* OVMF driver (which, by then, had been upstream
for almost a year).

Laszlo

Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Hou Qiming]

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Very good point, I did neglect ramfb resolution changes... But there is one
important thing: it *can* cause a QEMU crash, a potentially exploitable
one, not always a guest crash. That's what motivated my heavy-handed
approach since allowing resolution change would have necessitated a good
deal of security checks. It has crashed my host *kernel* quite a few times.

The point is, while the QemuRamfbDxe driver may behave properly, nothing
prevents the guest from writing garbage or *malicious* values to the ramfb
config space. Then the values are sent to the display component without any
sanity check. For some GUI frontends, this means allocating an OpenGL
texture with guest-supplied dimensions and uploading guest memory content
to it, which means that guest memory content goes straight into a *kernel
driver*, *completely unchecked*. Some integer overflow and a lenient GPU
driver later, and the guest escapes straight to kernel.

The proper way to enable ramfb resolution change again is adding sanity
checks for ramfb resolution / pointer / etc. on the QEMU side. We have to
make sure it doesn't exceed what the host GPU driver supports. Maybe clamp
both width and height to between 1 and 2048? We also need to validate that
OpenGL texture dimension update succeeds. Note that OpenGL is not obliged
to validate anything and everything has to be checked on the QEMU side.

Qiming


On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:05 PM Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:

> (CC Gerd, Qiming, Marcel, qemu-devel for ramfb:)
>
> On 04/14/20 23:20, valerij zaporogeci wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > There is a Boot Manager UI display problem, I don't know if this is
> > qemu problem, but with the ARM (both 32 and 64 bits, the qemu version
> > is 4.2.0, the OVMF is fresh), and using "ramfb" device, the Boot
> > Manager has troubles with drawing - it's interfase looks entirely
> > broken, like this (I'll try to attach the screenshot). UEFI shell
> > doesn't have this problem. switching to "serial" (which is -serial vc)
> > doesn't produce it too. Only when ramfb is chosen, the Boot Manager UI
> > gets smeared. But it takes input and presumable works properly, except
> > displaying things. qemu writes these messages in the command prompt:
> > ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 640x480 @ 0x4bd00000
> > ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected
> > ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 800x600 @ 0x4bd00000
> > ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected
>
> Gerd contributed the OVMF QemuRamfbDxe driver in edk2 commit
> 1d25ff51af5c ("OvmfPkg: add QemuRamfbDxe", 2018-06-14). Note the date:
> June 2018.
>
> The then-latest (released) QEMU version was v2.12.0, and v2.12.1 /
> v3.0.0 were in the making.
>
> At that time, the resolution change definitely worked -- note my
> "Tested-by" on the edk2 commit message.
>
>
> Running "git blame" on the QEMU source, I now find commit a9e0cb67b7f4
> ("hw/display/ramfb: lock guest resolution after it's set", 2019-05-24).
>
> Again, note the date: May 2019 (and this commit was released with QEMU
> v4.1.0).
>
> So I would say that the symptom you see is a QEMU v4.1.0 regression. The
> QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() function in the OVMF ramfb driver
> certainly needs the QemuFwCfgWriteBytes() call to work, for changing the
> resolution.
>
>
> Now, I'm not familiar with the reasons behind QEMU commit a9e0cb67b7f4.
> It says it intends to "prevent[] a crash when the guest writes garbage
> to the configuration space (e.g. when rebooting)".
>
> But I don't understand why locking the resolution was necessary for
> preventing "a crash":
>
> (1) Registering a device reset handler in QEMU seems sufficient, so that
> QEMU forget about the currently shared RAMFB area at platform reset.
>
> (2) The crash in question is apparently not a *QEMU* crash -- which
> might otherwise justify a heavy-handed approach. Instead, it is a
> *guest* crash. See the references below:
>
> (2a)
> http://mid.mail-archive.com/CABSdmrmU7FK90Bupq_ySowcc9Uk=8nQxNLHgzvDsNYdp_QLogA@mail.gmail.com
>      https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-05/msg02299.html
>
> (2b) https://github.com/intel/gvt-linux/issues/23#issuecomment-483651476
>
> Therefore, I don't think that locking the resolution was justified!
>
> Importantly:
>
> - The QemuRamfbDxe driver allocates the framebuffer in *reserved*
> memory, therefore any well-behaving OS will *never* touch the
> framebuffer.
>
> - The QemuRamfbDxe driver allocates the framebuffer memory only once,
> namely for such a resolution that needs the largest amount of
> framebuffer memory. Therefore, framebuffer re-allocations in the guest
> driver -- and thereby guest RAM *re-mapping* in QEMU -- are *not*
> necessary, upon resolution change.
>
> The ramfb device reset handler in QEMU is justified (for unmapping /
> forgetting the previously shared RAMFB area).
>
> The resolution locking is *NOT* justified, and it breaks the OVMF
> driver. I suggest backing out the resolution locking from QEMU.
>
> Reference (2a) above indicates 'It could be a misguided attempt to
> "resize ramfb" by the guest Intel driver'. If that is the case, then
> please fix the Intel guest driver, without regressing the QEMU device
> model.
>
> I'm sad that the QEMU device model change was not regression-tested
> against the *upstream* OVMF driver (which, by then, had been upstream
> for almost a year).
>
> Laszlo
>
>

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Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Laszlo Ersek]

On 04/16/20 06:38, Hou Qiming wrote:
> Very good point, I did neglect ramfb resolution changes... But there is one
> important thing: it *can* cause a QEMU crash, a potentially exploitable
> one, not always a guest crash. That's what motivated my heavy-handed
> approach since allowing resolution change would have necessitated a good
> deal of security checks. It has crashed my host *kernel* quite a few times.
> 
> The point is, while the QemuRamfbDxe driver may behave properly, nothing
> prevents the guest from writing garbage or *malicious* values to the ramfb
> config space. Then the values are sent to the display component without any
> sanity check. For some GUI frontends, this means allocating an OpenGL
> texture with guest-supplied dimensions and uploading guest memory content
> to it, which means that guest memory content goes straight into a *kernel
> driver*, *completely unchecked*. Some integer overflow and a lenient GPU
> driver later, and the guest escapes straight to kernel.
> 
> The proper way to enable ramfb resolution change again is adding sanity
> checks for ramfb resolution / pointer / etc. on the QEMU side. We have to
> make sure it doesn't exceed what the host GPU driver supports. Maybe clamp
> both width and height to between 1 and 2048? We also need to validate that
> OpenGL texture dimension update succeeds. Note that OpenGL is not obliged
> to validate anything and everything has to be checked on the QEMU side.

I agree that QEMU should sanity check the resolution requested by the
guest. I also agree that "arbitrary" limits are acceptable, for
preventing integer overflows and -- hopefully -- memory allocation
failures too.

But I don't see the host kernel / OpenGL / physical GPU angle, at least
not directly. That angle seems to be specific to your particular use
case (particular choice of display backend).

For example, if you nest QEMU/TCG in QEMU/TCG, with no KVM and no device
assignment in the picture anywhere, and OVMF drives ramfb in L2, and the
display *backend* (such as GTK or SDL GUI window) for the QEMU process
running in L1 sits on top of a virtual device (such as bochs-display)
provided by QEMU running in L0, then the ramfb stuff (including the
resolution changes and the range checks) should work just the same,
between L2 and L1.

I kinda feel like ramfb has been hijacked for providing a boot time
display crutch for kvmgt. (I might not be using the correct terminology
here; sorry about that). That's *not* what ramfb was originally intended
for, as far as I recall. Compare:

- 59926de9987c ("Merge remote-tracking branch
'remotes/kraxel/tags/vga-20180618-pull-request' into staging", 2018-06-19)

- dddb37495b84 ("Merge remote-tracking branch
'remotes/awilliam/tags/vfio-updates-20181015.0' into staging", 2018-10-15)

IIRC, Gerd originally invented ramfb for giving AARCH64 Windows the
linear framebuffer that the latter so badly wants, in particular so that
the framebuffer exist in guest RAM (not in guest MMIO), in order to
avoid the annoying S1/S2 caching behavior of AARCH64/KVM when the guest
maps an area as MMIO that is mapped as RAM on the host [1]. See:

- https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785#c4
- https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785#c7
- https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785#c8

and the further references given in those bugzilla comments.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1679680#c0

Component reuse is obviously *hugely* important, and it would be silly
for me to argue against reusing ramfb wherever it applies. Just please
don't break the original use case.

Should I file a bug report in LaunchPad, or is this thread enough for
tracking the QEMU regression?

Thanks
Laszlo

> 
> Qiming
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:05 PM Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> (CC Gerd, Qiming, Marcel, qemu-devel for ramfb:)
>>
>> On 04/14/20 23:20, valerij zaporogeci wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> There is a Boot Manager UI display problem, I don't know if this is
>>> qemu problem, but with the ARM (both 32 and 64 bits, the qemu version
>>> is 4.2.0, the OVMF is fresh), and using "ramfb" device, the Boot
>>> Manager has troubles with drawing - it's interfase looks entirely
>>> broken, like this (I'll try to attach the screenshot). UEFI shell
>>> doesn't have this problem. switching to "serial" (which is -serial vc)
>>> doesn't produce it too. Only when ramfb is chosen, the Boot Manager UI
>>> gets smeared. But it takes input and presumable works properly, except
>>> displaying things. qemu writes these messages in the command prompt:
>>> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 640x480 @ 0x4bd00000
>>> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected
>>> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 800x600 @ 0x4bd00000
>>> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected
>>
>> Gerd contributed the OVMF QemuRamfbDxe driver in edk2 commit
>> 1d25ff51af5c ("OvmfPkg: add QemuRamfbDxe", 2018-06-14). Note the date:
>> June 2018.
>>
>> The then-latest (released) QEMU version was v2.12.0, and v2.12.1 /
>> v3.0.0 were in the making.
>>
>> At that time, the resolution change definitely worked -- note my
>> "Tested-by" on the edk2 commit message.
>>
>>
>> Running "git blame" on the QEMU source, I now find commit a9e0cb67b7f4
>> ("hw/display/ramfb: lock guest resolution after it's set", 2019-05-24).
>>
>> Again, note the date: May 2019 (and this commit was released with QEMU
>> v4.1.0).
>>
>> So I would say that the symptom you see is a QEMU v4.1.0 regression. The
>> QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() function in the OVMF ramfb driver
>> certainly needs the QemuFwCfgWriteBytes() call to work, for changing the
>> resolution.
>>
>>
>> Now, I'm not familiar with the reasons behind QEMU commit a9e0cb67b7f4.
>> It says it intends to "prevent[] a crash when the guest writes garbage
>> to the configuration space (e.g. when rebooting)".
>>
>> But I don't understand why locking the resolution was necessary for
>> preventing "a crash":
>>
>> (1) Registering a device reset handler in QEMU seems sufficient, so that
>> QEMU forget about the currently shared RAMFB area at platform reset.
>>
>> (2) The crash in question is apparently not a *QEMU* crash -- which
>> might otherwise justify a heavy-handed approach. Instead, it is a
>> *guest* crash. See the references below:
>>
>> (2a)
>> http://mid.mail-archive.com/CABSdmrmU7FK90Bupq_ySowcc9Uk=8nQxNLHgzvDsNYdp_QLogA@mail.gmail.com
>>      https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-05/msg02299.html
>>
>> (2b) https://github.com/intel/gvt-linux/issues/23#issuecomment-483651476
>>
>> Therefore, I don't think that locking the resolution was justified!
>>
>> Importantly:
>>
>> - The QemuRamfbDxe driver allocates the framebuffer in *reserved*
>> memory, therefore any well-behaving OS will *never* touch the
>> framebuffer.
>>
>> - The QemuRamfbDxe driver allocates the framebuffer memory only once,
>> namely for such a resolution that needs the largest amount of
>> framebuffer memory. Therefore, framebuffer re-allocations in the guest
>> driver -- and thereby guest RAM *re-mapping* in QEMU -- are *not*
>> necessary, upon resolution change.
>>
>> The ramfb device reset handler in QEMU is justified (for unmapping /
>> forgetting the previously shared RAMFB area).
>>
>> The resolution locking is *NOT* justified, and it breaks the OVMF
>> driver. I suggest backing out the resolution locking from QEMU.
>>
>> Reference (2a) above indicates 'It could be a misguided attempt to
>> "resize ramfb" by the guest Intel driver'. If that is the case, then
>> please fix the Intel guest driver, without regressing the QEMU device
>> model.
>>
>> I'm sad that the QEMU device model change was not regression-tested
>> against the *upstream* OVMF driver (which, by then, had been upstream
>> for almost a year).
>>
>> Laszlo
>>
>>
> 

Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Hou Qiming]

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I'm glad we can reach a consensus that ramfb needs sanity checks. And well,
I'm probably at fault with the hijacking.

Your QEMU/TCG in QEMU/TCG example also made me realize a deeper problem,
though: your setting still can't escape the host display / physical GPU
issue. The middle display layers be bochs or whatever, but as long as the
framebuffer content and resolution values are propagated, and the end
result is displayed at all on the host, the host GPU attack surface remains
exposed to the L2 guest, and checks are needed. Everything shown on the
screen involves the display driver - GPU stack, GTK or SDL or tty, you
can't avoid that. ramfb-kvmgt just happened to be the shortest pipeline
where every stage neglected the checks, which exposed this problem. Blaming
this on ramfb is unfair since in your scenario the checks are better done
in the display subsystems.

TL;DR You made me realize right now, it's a very real risk that an AARCH64
Windows guest could exploit a x64 host's display driver by specifying a
crafted framebuffer with overflowing resolution. I don't want to break it,
but I'd prefer a broken state over an insecure state.

I'm not quite sure what this thread is. But I think with the scope this
discussion is going, maybe it's more of a bug than a regression.


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:12 PM Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 04/16/20 06:38, Hou Qiming wrote:
> > Very good point, I did neglect ramfb resolution changes... But there is
> one
> > important thing: it *can* cause a QEMU crash, a potentially exploitable
> > one, not always a guest crash. That's what motivated my heavy-handed
> > approach since allowing resolution change would have necessitated a good
> > deal of security checks. It has crashed my host *kernel* quite a few
> times.
> >
> > The point is, while the QemuRamfbDxe driver may behave properly, nothing
> > prevents the guest from writing garbage or *malicious* values to the
> ramfb
> > config space. Then the values are sent to the display component without
> any
> > sanity check. For some GUI frontends, this means allocating an OpenGL
> > texture with guest-supplied dimensions and uploading guest memory content
> > to it, which means that guest memory content goes straight into a *kernel
> > driver*, *completely unchecked*. Some integer overflow and a lenient GPU
> > driver later, and the guest escapes straight to kernel.
> >
> > The proper way to enable ramfb resolution change again is adding sanity
> > checks for ramfb resolution / pointer / etc. on the QEMU side. We have to
> > make sure it doesn't exceed what the host GPU driver supports. Maybe
> clamp
> > both width and height to between 1 and 2048? We also need to validate
> that
> > OpenGL texture dimension update succeeds. Note that OpenGL is not obliged
> > to validate anything and everything has to be checked on the QEMU side.
>
> I agree that QEMU should sanity check the resolution requested by the
> guest. I also agree that "arbitrary" limits are acceptable, for
> preventing integer overflows and -- hopefully -- memory allocation
> failures too.
>
> But I don't see the host kernel / OpenGL / physical GPU angle, at least
> not directly. That angle seems to be specific to your particular use
> case (particular choice of display backend).
>
> For example, if you nest QEMU/TCG in QEMU/TCG, with no KVM and no device
> assignment in the picture anywhere, and OVMF drives ramfb in L2, and the
> display *backend* (such as GTK or SDL GUI window) for the QEMU process
> running in L1 sits on top of a virtual device (such as bochs-display)
> provided by QEMU running in L0, then the ramfb stuff (including the
> resolution changes and the range checks) should work just the same,
> between L2 and L1.
>
> I kinda feel like ramfb has been hijacked for providing a boot time
> display crutch for kvmgt. (I might not be using the correct terminology
> here; sorry about that). That's *not* what ramfb was originally intended
> for, as far as I recall. Compare:
>
> - 59926de9987c ("Merge remote-tracking branch
> 'remotes/kraxel/tags/vga-20180618-pull-request' into staging", 2018-06-19)
>
> - dddb37495b84 ("Merge remote-tracking branch
> 'remotes/awilliam/tags/vfio-updates-20181015.0' into staging", 2018-10-15)
>
> IIRC, Gerd originally invented ramfb for giving AARCH64 Windows the
> linear framebuffer that the latter so badly wants, in particular so that
> the framebuffer exist in guest RAM (not in guest MMIO), in order to
> avoid the annoying S1/S2 caching behavior of AARCH64/KVM when the guest
> maps an area as MMIO that is mapped as RAM on the host [1]. See:
>
> - https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785#c4
> - https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785#c7
> - https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785#c8
>
> and the further references given in those bugzilla comments.
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1679680#c0
>
> Component reuse is obviously *hugely* important, and it would be silly
> for me to argue against reusing ramfb wherever it applies. Just please
> don't break the original use case.
>
> Should I file a bug report in LaunchPad, or is this thread enough for
> tracking the QEMU regression?
>
> Thanks
> Laszlo
>
> >
> > Qiming
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:05 PM Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> (CC Gerd, Qiming, Marcel, qemu-devel for ramfb:)
> >>
> >> On 04/14/20 23:20, valerij zaporogeci wrote:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >>> There is a Boot Manager UI display problem, I don't know if this is
> >>> qemu problem, but with the ARM (both 32 and 64 bits, the qemu version
> >>> is 4.2.0, the OVMF is fresh), and using "ramfb" device, the Boot
> >>> Manager has troubles with drawing - it's interfase looks entirely
> >>> broken, like this (I'll try to attach the screenshot). UEFI shell
> >>> doesn't have this problem. switching to "serial" (which is -serial vc)
> >>> doesn't produce it too. Only when ramfb is chosen, the Boot Manager UI
> >>> gets smeared. But it takes input and presumable works properly, except
> >>> displaying things. qemu writes these messages in the command prompt:
> >>> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 640x480 @ 0x4bd00000
> >>> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected
> >>> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 800x600 @ 0x4bd00000
> >>> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected
> >>
> >> Gerd contributed the OVMF QemuRamfbDxe driver in edk2 commit
> >> 1d25ff51af5c ("OvmfPkg: add QemuRamfbDxe", 2018-06-14). Note the date:
> >> June 2018.
> >>
> >> The then-latest (released) QEMU version was v2.12.0, and v2.12.1 /
> >> v3.0.0 were in the making.
> >>
> >> At that time, the resolution change definitely worked -- note my
> >> "Tested-by" on the edk2 commit message.
> >>
> >>
> >> Running "git blame" on the QEMU source, I now find commit a9e0cb67b7f4
> >> ("hw/display/ramfb: lock guest resolution after it's set", 2019-05-24).
> >>
> >> Again, note the date: May 2019 (and this commit was released with QEMU
> >> v4.1.0).
> >>
> >> So I would say that the symptom you see is a QEMU v4.1.0 regression. The
> >> QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() function in the OVMF ramfb driver
> >> certainly needs the QemuFwCfgWriteBytes() call to work, for changing the
> >> resolution.
> >>
> >>
> >> Now, I'm not familiar with the reasons behind QEMU commit a9e0cb67b7f4.
> >> It says it intends to "prevent[] a crash when the guest writes garbage
> >> to the configuration space (e.g. when rebooting)".
> >>
> >> But I don't understand why locking the resolution was necessary for
> >> preventing "a crash":
> >>
> >> (1) Registering a device reset handler in QEMU seems sufficient, so that
> >> QEMU forget about the currently shared RAMFB area at platform reset.
> >>
> >> (2) The crash in question is apparently not a *QEMU* crash -- which
> >> might otherwise justify a heavy-handed approach. Instead, it is a
> >> *guest* crash. See the references below:
> >>
> >> (2a)
> >>
> http://mid.mail-archive.com/CABSdmrmU7FK90Bupq_ySowcc9Uk=8nQxNLHgzvDsNYdp_QLogA@mail.gmail.com
> >>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-05/msg02299.html
> >>
> >> (2b)
> https://github.com/intel/gvt-linux/issues/23#issuecomment-483651476
> >>
> >> Therefore, I don't think that locking the resolution was justified!
> >>
> >> Importantly:
> >>
> >> - The QemuRamfbDxe driver allocates the framebuffer in *reserved*
> >> memory, therefore any well-behaving OS will *never* touch the
> >> framebuffer.
> >>
> >> - The QemuRamfbDxe driver allocates the framebuffer memory only once,
> >> namely for such a resolution that needs the largest amount of
> >> framebuffer memory. Therefore, framebuffer re-allocations in the guest
> >> driver -- and thereby guest RAM *re-mapping* in QEMU -- are *not*
> >> necessary, upon resolution change.
> >>
> >> The ramfb device reset handler in QEMU is justified (for unmapping /
> >> forgetting the previously shared RAMFB area).
> >>
> >> The resolution locking is *NOT* justified, and it breaks the OVMF
> >> driver. I suggest backing out the resolution locking from QEMU.
> >>
> >> Reference (2a) above indicates 'It could be a misguided attempt to
> >> "resize ramfb" by the guest Intel driver'. If that is the case, then
> >> please fix the Intel guest driver, without regressing the QEMU device
> >> model.
> >>
> >> I'm sad that the QEMU device model change was not regression-tested
> >> against the *upstream* OVMF driver (which, by then, had been upstream
> >> for almost a year).
> >>
> >> Laszlo
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Laszlo Ersek]

On 04/17/20 05:22, Hou Qiming wrote:
> I'm glad we can reach a consensus that ramfb needs sanity checks. And well,
> I'm probably at fault with the hijacking.
> 
> Your QEMU/TCG in QEMU/TCG example also made me realize a deeper problem,
> though: your setting still can't escape the host display / physical GPU
> issue. The middle display layers be bochs or whatever, but as long as the
> framebuffer content and resolution values are propagated, and the end
> result is displayed at all on the host, the host GPU attack surface remains
> exposed to the L2 guest, and checks are needed. Everything shown on the
> screen involves the display driver - GPU stack, GTK or SDL or tty, you
> can't avoid that. ramfb-kvmgt just happened to be the shortest pipeline
> where every stage neglected the checks, which exposed this problem.

Good point.

> Blaming
> this on ramfb is unfair since in your scenario the checks are better done
> in the display subsystems.
> 
> TL;DR You made me realize right now, it's a very real risk that an AARCH64
> Windows guest could exploit a x64 host's display driver by specifying a
> crafted framebuffer with overflowing resolution. I don't want to break it,
> but I'd prefer a broken state over an insecure state.
> 
> I'm not quite sure what this thread is. But I think with the scope this
> discussion is going, maybe it's more of a bug than a regression.

All display devices (frontends) emulated by QEMU have to set bounds for
the permissible resolutions, for the guest. And those limits must never
break the capabilities of the display backends. So this is not a new
problem. How is it handled with other frontends? Like bochs-display, for
example -- I assume bochs-display too is purely virtual, i.e. the
resolution is fully controller (between bounds) by the guest. How is the
guest currently prevented from setting a bochs-display resolution that
"breaks SDL" (whatever that means)?

I'm inclined to agree that we're just seeing two sides of the same bug
-- the first state was too lax, and the current state is too strict.

Thanks
Laszlo

Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Gerd Hoffmann]

  Hi,

> The proper way to enable ramfb resolution change again is adding sanity
> checks for ramfb resolution / pointer / etc. on the QEMU side.

Pointer *is* checked.  ramfb creates a mapping, and if that fails due to
the pointer not being valid it bails out.

Sanity-checking the resolution is the job of the UI code.

cheers,
  Gerd

Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Gerd Hoffmann]

  Hi,

> So I would say that the symptom you see is a QEMU v4.1.0 regression. The
> QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() function in the OVMF ramfb driver
> certainly needs the QemuFwCfgWriteBytes() call to work, for changing the
> resolution.

Oh?  QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() can be called multiple times?
How does that happen?

> (1) Registering a device reset handler in QEMU seems sufficient, so that
> QEMU forget about the currently shared RAMFB area at platform reset.

That happens.  After system reset you can write configuration again (once).

The guest os should not play with ramfb.  It is supposed to be setup by
the firmware (ovmf driver or vgabios rom) as boot display, then never be
re-configured again ...

cheers,
  Gerd

Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Laszlo Ersek]

On 04/20/20 16:13, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>   Hi,
>
>> So I would say that the symptom you see is a QEMU v4.1.0 regression.
>> The QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() function in the OVMF ramfb
>> driver certainly needs the QemuFwCfgWriteBytes() call to work, for
>> changing the resolution.
>
> Oh?  QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() can be called multiple times?
> How does that happen?

QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() is the "SetMode" member function of the
EFI_GRAPHICS_OUTPUT_PROTOCOL instance that QemuRamfbDxe produces.

This is a standard protocol; UEFI drivers and applications are free to
locate it and to use it.

(1) When you launch OVMF, you get the splash screen in a particular
resolution. This resolution:
- is configured by OvmfPkg/PlatformDxe,
- is inherited by an OS boot loader,
- is reconfigurable with OvmfPkg/PlatformDxe, for the next boot, via the
  Setup TUI,
- defaults to 800x600 (taking effect when no particular choice is
  configured).

(2) UiApp -- the Setup TUI itself -- uses its own resolution. Under
OVMF, this resolution is fixed 640x480. When UiApp is entered,
ultimately a call is made to QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() -- i.e., a
GOP.SetMode() member function -- for setting this 640x480 resolution.

Using the following command:

  qemu-system-x86_64 \
    -nodefaults \
    -boot menu=on,splash-time=5000 \
    -enable-kvm \
    -device ramfb \
    -drive if=pflash,readonly,format=raw,file=$PREFIX/share/qemu/edk2-x86_64-code.fd \
    -drive if=pflash,snapshot,format=raw,file=$PREFIX/share/qemu/edk2-i386-vars.fd \
    -debugcon file:ovmf.log \
    -global isa-debugcon.iobase=0x402

when you first see the progress bar, the graphical resolution (1) is
800x600. Accordingly, QEMU prints to stderr:

> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 800x600 @ 0x6702000

Once you hit ESC to interrupt the progress bar and to enter the Setup
TUI, UiApp switches to resolution (2), 640x480. QEMU prints:

> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 640x480 @ 0x6702000
> ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected

And you get garbage in the Setup window.

Thanks,
Laszlo

Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Hou Qiming]

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A little off topic thing: isn't the default resolution supposed to be
1024x768? This is the Microsoft regulation which all my physical devices
seem to follow:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/test/hlk/testref/6afc8979-df62-4d86-8f6a-99f05bbdc7f3

And when the user provides an EDID one should parse it and set the default
resolution to match it. But that's a less important feature.


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:03 PM Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 04/20/20 16:13, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> >   Hi,
> >
> >> So I would say that the symptom you see is a QEMU v4.1.0 regression.
> >> The QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() function in the OVMF ramfb
> >> driver certainly needs the QemuFwCfgWriteBytes() call to work, for
> >> changing the resolution.
> >
> > Oh?  QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() can be called multiple times?
> > How does that happen?
>
> QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() is the "SetMode" member function of the
> EFI_GRAPHICS_OUTPUT_PROTOCOL instance that QemuRamfbDxe produces.
>
> This is a standard protocol; UEFI drivers and applications are free to
> locate it and to use it.
>
> (1) When you launch OVMF, you get the splash screen in a particular
> resolution. This resolution:
> - is configured by OvmfPkg/PlatformDxe,
> - is inherited by an OS boot loader,
> - is reconfigurable with OvmfPkg/PlatformDxe, for the next boot, via the
>   Setup TUI,
> - defaults to 800x600 (taking effect when no particular choice is
>   configured).
>
> (2) UiApp -- the Setup TUI itself -- uses its own resolution. Under
> OVMF, this resolution is fixed 640x480. When UiApp is entered,
> ultimately a call is made to QemuRamfbGraphicsOutputSetMode() -- i.e., a
> GOP.SetMode() member function -- for setting this 640x480 resolution.
>
> Using the following command:
>
>   qemu-system-x86_64 \
>     -nodefaults \
>     -boot menu=on,splash-time=5000 \
>     -enable-kvm \
>     -device ramfb \
>     -drive
> if=pflash,readonly,format=raw,file=$PREFIX/share/qemu/edk2-x86_64-code.fd \
>     -drive
> if=pflash,snapshot,format=raw,file=$PREFIX/share/qemu/edk2-i386-vars.fd \
>     -debugcon file:ovmf.log \
>     -global isa-debugcon.iobase=0x402
>
> when you first see the progress bar, the graphical resolution (1) is
> 800x600. Accordingly, QEMU prints to stderr:
>
> > ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 800x600 @ 0x6702000
>
> Once you hit ESC to interrupt the progress bar and to enter the Setup
> TUI, UiApp switches to resolution (2), 640x480. QEMU prints:
>
> > ramfb_fw_cfg_write: 640x480 @ 0x6702000
> > ramfb_fw_cfg_write: resolution locked, change rejected
>
> And you get garbage in the Setup window.
>
> Thanks,
> Laszlo
>
>

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Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Laszlo Ersek]

On 04/22/20 09:42, Hou Qiming wrote:
> A little off topic thing: isn't the default resolution supposed to be
> 1024x768?

No.

> This is the Microsoft regulation which all my physical devices
> seem to follow:
> 
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/test/hlk/testref/6afc8979-df62-4d86-8f6a-99f05bbdc7f3

Key term being "Microsoft regulation".

The UEFI spec requires discrete ("plug-in") graphics devices to support
at least either 800x600x32 or 640x480x32.

And the edk2 (not just OVMF) default for the console resolution is
800x600. (See PcdVideoHorizontalResolution and
PcdVideoVerticalResolution in "MdeModulePkg/MdeModulePkg.dec".)

> And when the user provides an EDID one should parse it and set the default
> resolution to match it. But that's a less important feature.

It's more complex than you might think, and (to me personally) it seems
to require more time than its importance justifies.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749250

Laszlo

Re: [edk2-discuss] Load Option passing. Either bugs or my confusion.

[Hou Qiming]

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>
>
> > And when the user provides an EDID one should parse it and set the
> default
> > resolution to match it. But that's a less important feature.
>
> It's more complex than you might think, and (to me personally) it seems
> to require more time than its importance justifies.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749250
>
>
Read the thread. Actually, I wrote some EDID parsing code a while ago, but
that's before QEMU supporting EDID so I had to do it outside QEMU and pass
my parsing result to ramfb as the now-removed starting_width /
starting_height. In the context QEMU, the EDID actually reflects the user
preference since the whole structure is usually made up from the
user-specified resolution. And I think most guest OSes initialize
first-time-seen monitors to their EDID resolution, which should have
motivated QEMU to provide an EDID for a virtual monitor.

But at this point it's kind of awkward to do the EDID / resolution handling
(that I need) in the ramfb driver as the kvmgt EDID has to be read out from
the i915 MMIO just like a physical GPU. Guess now my use case is better
covered with a fully functional i915 framebuffer driver for OVMF. If I had
the time...

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