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([2607:fb90:580:a104:4475:e6b8:8600:af4a]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d4sm4351082pjz.12.2020.01.22.12.46.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Jan 2020 12:46:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/18] hw/avr: Introduce few Arduino boards To: =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=c3=a9?= , Michael Rolnik , Peter Maydell , Paolo Bonzini References: <20200120220107.17825-1-f4bug@amsat.org> From: Richard Henderson Autocrypt: addr=rth@twiddle.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQENBFGuLC8BCADcAoWcnW9lTsDMzbO3MBU+KbiGaj5JPatEUscRDkQYM2fyNjJp2tIWDK5a n4yngeXB3eX61WbYR3QraRK8mlYLGxyAdHMEQfPipbqf3TmN043fssT2bc82ApJcs1zvLYgI rhMht7Dck7A0wNC1jo+ZjVVFig5gDTN7gOzaAdBtV8tVNUddwkLzzaGpfihhSD6U46NdqKOG Wlnn6TrkMy0QGdQ5NaXHkRlUjnnUTSW/nKfoxD+EI+A9V4sYOd8mc/TL4aJh/i/AiU57eLbo n17uQI6/VTWDUWl8USiz4x9c8vmqlywLx00tAFxxoRWqk4KVJlj+Sh0up/D/sJ+vPpgBABEB AAG0I1JpY2hhcmQgSGVuZGVyc29uIDxydGhAdHdpZGRsZS5uZXQ+iQFYBBMBAgBCAhsDBgsJ CAcDAgYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAIZARYhBJyxjdr46EmtKvwWpK0ScMxN0CebBQJdweUY BQkP1h/pAAoJEK0ScMxN0CebqDsH/0YyfnXk+Dc++H37VCEKgRet2i1ATFzxRnifkvmdxha0 V+PVptQ2fwSe+w3KxoFecD8W75nysmUjrU/FicW9yU5YRlGONPZjruG02/KzmhA5PzWJdYO3 i/t0qRayvWIcX2qA/flsXEbmb/BbAFM05LQIdcOu74eiBFe5CBCOWBDJeneE1urIE0hSYxoh nCcG60ULrNj13ohZ4zAEluoY32qIo7/OPWmtR88cPrEbZT8k+RqgZbsotzaPT1/RlL74fL8k ofYfTgKAFH7eEy6fF2nzDp2GThVn+3sA62xtpSXUf/X1m75B40KOcq1EQbHypNTmBc1wt13e ibhPNEVX2am5AQ0EUa4sLwEIALITHfH3gciRNfQIe7awDTDvn6H3C6gDyCAnv5LiuLTLZiyK NZp3lNO3rPowyKrGT2RIDlumlqPgdeHzqEEX91YK0yk2vdFvwU04rJ4D+qRgdUPoeICLD1zo PwOv2FaY6Tf8dKYas1RHF5QU5yQNey8j7IYYoE2yGPn2PtBmvtmK4iLataUEvx0U385Zr+jf HscqwTiToryeDC8Io/9BsMvAssE5Yf5URS2nJ7LFOvc4njsQJPF1i9egBXaIloqv7p2hVCKJ Hl5UWIxitQ9QQIl6iU4LCpz8mVYTXwv48IAVpbUf7+ak9V9Kk3jCeQnlxCJBUHjUhoIzinbS JHPHtkkAEQEAAYkBPAQYAQIAJgIbDBYhBJyxjdr46EmtKvwWpK0ScMxN0CebBQJdweVIBQkP 1iAZAAoJEK0ScMxN0CebGHUH/RtouOlWl6To97tQsTJUq/2YwmRpFOsvV0/zCX4fKBGAbeZi VaELSt2+3UEErA+n8HwbQmjJ6IrdhA9GustOpOyCcbLVSMwql/OlAwBtDzCcC8dTU4zcuY2a rGG2A8i5krU85G9r1wowVcWZBsdmW7/dKiNoadLQiig4bHNiSaV4ograas5efyEjqTxiY+yG hzPw5DK2kbp2co8iDF1vW0LWPeLFBinCgItcI9LvgHWaB3rwjOfvNpMn5m64SoQYHB8wbnid erAjOzkBzmqnfS1tAUr8mtESStEwrEmNv0ZoA6S0Wt+c9pyTr+BpG4OFlhj7ZI+Eh7zOrr33 q9OBIdA= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 10:46:40 -1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::643 X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Sarah Harris , QEMU Developers , Aleksandar Markovic Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On 1/21/20 11:23 AM, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: >> 4. There is difference between -bios and -kernel (arduino boars crash when -bios is used, but this seems because I run avr6 on avr5 CPU). I would be happy if you explained what is the difference between these two arguments. > > qemu man page is not very helpful... > > -bios file > Set the filename for the BIOS. > > -kernel bzImage > Use bzImage as kernel image. The kernel can be either a > Linux kernel or in multiboot format. > > Paolo, Peter, do you have a simple explanation? It depends on your target board. They *can* do very different things. E.g. for "pc" (x86) machine, -bios sets the seabios image to use, and -kernel loads a kernel image that seabios will invoke. E.g. for "dp264" (alpha) machine, -bios sets the palcode image to use and -kernel loads a kernel image. Note that in this case, the alpha kernel relies on palcode services, so both must be present for the system to work. E.g. for "virt" (arm) machine, -bios loads a raw image at which the reset vector will be pointed, whereas -kernel loads a linux kernel image and follows the arm-linux kernel boot protocol. In other words the images are treated very differently. I don't know what, if anything, an avr kernel would require from boot services. I suspect the two options *could* be treated identically. r~