From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11AE2D1715D for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t36Op-000584-0G; Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:21:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t36Om-00057i-JG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:21:36 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-x631.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::631]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t36Ok-0005Tc-KA for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:21:36 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-x631.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-20c7ee8fe6bso49253565ad.2 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:21:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; t=1729570893; x=1730175693; darn=nongnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=U6TA+dfpJRL2alQYF+sK8n7yKe+rntMD1q1SiavzAdw=; b=sFQ4W1FiVF6t9ty5h9rzqRlctTwaYDKW7tMrIG7hpmklTJ7tRbbIynovMx4iY73eaO xU3DZS3uewMmjmQvJLULl/MUca9w6vNNClFBn71w6LYjKdQRI1KjW8IM9ZhS7RI/39do SXSUas2K14BgZhil4B6DvFxlZbMMdxUgFpNHcH+lOygZKB33mFB51El1LRgE24OTHKgH +8U/W1ywyFMwuXoI48aOeAwWLwy5TSZ+5mT5Neh7IOMcvtwR2oj3AB2nX08GcZpxZ2KA 5rbphRZj7DLig8xGlZXh+X4xPTxmmT9QqujFcfQT1Gm8912kl9ws7WVE2jvDvTNy1Krd F6Pw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1729570893; x=1730175693; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=U6TA+dfpJRL2alQYF+sK8n7yKe+rntMD1q1SiavzAdw=; b=FIso9cA4jrLhTPwnDlA+NQMNKX/8zdokT+tbRWBco9SQl6cjo0lw/xaZCgqE3XhKSK yca5EnhSdtoYfrv3btUIApEpiBTTdNF6S+E4O4vLXAxN022WaRGr7GdWEkwvgDj4Pjdf U7DCS12/kk76YB+oB5w88jvkNYwJOKOUdCIBFtgikm759jFe8O1uFEUvSKsu/8e7182G 86CubPmBr1gyr5Z2AS9jEdfLgPbeAqx3Oc55T2++q4D+u7cC+qRdVnuZRkw58f+E6llO k657ApWG5jSBhcr4dUlc5gi4NNEXe3ioys6nvD9/DFIn7Kbxh90BE1fjfYj6w6hE8rPw AlRg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWIYvvY5dJuV6zTwOmTwA5qGpRZWDOb/keJe6c/6JNR+Pu6H7hLw+uq1L29HOAbeTYfb9+guwNTIfXW@nongnu.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyPuJf7CDPEs4YB9FWz0NZfbV9r4+24dbz1Z14tYUNqjxWPhUaO qcqZ6RU3xdBWn8V5UXiPIpHIAcIQeufUdFNy0Y0RDXQbn+JmloXqUrj1CaFwLZsAktkAg7MG0kR H X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG8HAGB/M6ItFDHqP/zrrIU+7MNDUoytlmgEko0q8TGgnL+5nroZCrjMMLJzaJxAzc7L1+2Tw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:db0e:b0:20d:1866:ed6f with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-20e5a71eef2mr51145695ad.4.1729570892704; Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.100.49] ([45.176.88.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-20e7ef08c4asm33851885ad.80.2024.10.21.21.21.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:21:30 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: explicitly permit a "commonly known identity" with SoB To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2E_Berrang=C3=A9?= , qemu-devel@nongnu.org References: <20241021190939.1482466-1-berrange@redhat.com> Content-Language: en-US From: =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= In-Reply-To: <20241021190939.1482466-1-berrange@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::631; envelope-from=philmd@linaro.org; helo=mail-pl1-x631.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On 21/10/24 16:09, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > The docs for submitting a patch describe using your "Real Name" with > the Signed-off-by line. Although somewhat ambiguous, this has often > been interpreted to mean someone's legal name. > > In recent times, there's been a general push back[1] against the notion > that use of Signed-off-by in a project automatically requires / implies > the use of legal ("real") names and greater awareness of the downsides. > > Full discussion of the problems of such policies is beyond the scope of > this commit message, but at a high level they are liable to marginalize, > disadvantage, and potentially result in harm, to contributors. > > TL;DR: there are compelling reasons for a person to choose distinct > identities in different contexts & a decision to override that choice > should not be taken lightly. > > A number of key projects have responded to the issues raised by making > it clear that a contributor is free to determine the identity used in > SoB lines: > > * Linux has clarified[2] that they merely expect use of the > contributor's "known identity", removing the previous explicit > rejection of pseudonyms. > > * CNCF has clarified[3] that the real name is simply the identity > the contributor chooses to use in the context of the community > and does not have to be a legal name, nor birth name, nor appear > on any government ID. > > Since we have no intention of ever routinely checking any form of ID > documents for contributors[4], realistically we have no way of knowing > anything about the name they are using, except through chance, or > through the contributor volunteering the information. IOW, we almost > certainly already have people using pseudonyms for contributions. > > This proposes to accept that reality and eliminate unnecessary friction, > by following Linux & the CNCF in merely asking that a contributors' > commonly known identity, of their choosing, be used with the SoB line. > > [1] Raised in many contexts at many times, but a decent overall summary > can be read at https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html > [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=d4563201f33a022fc0353033d9dfeb1606a88330 > [3] https://github.com/cncf/foundation/blob/659fd32c86dc/dco-guidelines.md > [4] Excluding the rare GPG key signing parties for regular maintainers > > Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé > --- > .gitlab-ci.d/check-dco.py | 5 ++++- > docs/devel/submitting-a-patch.rst | 7 ++++++- > 2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > +The name used with "Signed-off-by" does not need to be your legal name, > +nor birth name, nor appear on any government ID. It is the identity you > +choose to be known by in the community, but should not be anonymous, > +nor misrepresent whom you are. Reviewed-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé