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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-block@nongnu.org" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>
Cc: "pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"mreitz@redhat.com" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"kwolf@redhat.com" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Denis Lunev <den@virtuozzo.com>,
	"rjones@redhat.com" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	"berrange@redhat.com" <berrange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] nbd server: drop old-style negotiation
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 13:08:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4459a14-298e-1cd7-0805-e7ec30c3fb01@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6a5cfb4-bfad-a4f5-fb86-e9329da851b6@virtuozzo.com>

On 10/3/18 12:59 PM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 03.10.2018 20:32, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 10/3/18 12:02 PM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> It's unexpected behavior that without -x option qemu-nbd do old-style
> negotiation. Let's use "" as a default name instead (as it is already
> done if tls is used) and therefore, drop old-style negotiation from
> Qemu NBD server.

Hmm, your email quoting style changed from prior emails that used to 
prepend '>' when quoting, making it harder to tell where the text you 
are quoting ends,...

> 
> Oddly enough, I wrote a similar patch in parallel, and am only now just seeing your mail. Yours is a bit stronger than mine (I added 'qemu-nbd -O' to allow explicit fallback to oldstyle, while you ripped it out altogether).  The client can negotiate either style, so we don't need an option on the client side; rather, this is all about what the server should do by default.
> 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2018-10/msg00568.html
> 
> Does anyone have a preference between the two? Here's the last time it was discussed:
> 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2018-08/msg03252.html
> 

and your reply begins.

> Hm, I think everyone who like new-style should answer that he don't care (except stricter way is a bit better: don't have options and code which we don't need).
> But if there is someone who has client which support only old-style negotiation his unhappiness (in case of strict way) will outweigh all our "bits":)
> 
> I'm from the first group). But let's chose your patch

My argument in favor of your patch over mine: nbdkit is a GREAT testbed 
for forcing all sorts of integration testing scenarios, including 
oldstyle servers.  Also, it includes a plugin for translating between 
new and oldstyle at will.  That is, if we ever legitimately encounter a 
client that can only talk oldstyle, but qemu only talks newstyle, we 
just tell the user to connect:

old client => nbdkit -o nbd => newstyle qemu

and then qemu doesn't have to worry about oldstyle because nbdkit does 
instead.

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3266
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-03 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-03 17:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] nbd server: drop old-style negotiation Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 17:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] qemu-nbd: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 17:31   ` Eric Blake
2018-10-03 17:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] nbd/server: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 17:35   ` Eric Blake
2018-10-03 17:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] nbd server: " Eric Blake
2018-10-03 17:59   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-03 18:08     ` Eric Blake [this message]
2018-10-03 20:30       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-10-04 12:10       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2018-10-04 12:22         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2018-10-03 20:44 ` Eric Blake

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