From: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
To: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-fs@redhat.com,
German Maglione <gmaglione@redhat.com>,
Anton Kuchin <antonkuchin@yandex-team.ru>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] vhost-user: Interface for migration state transfer
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 12:45:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4cc0882-c6e0-a830-45d6-e3aab398ab98@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJaqyWegMfuc8s6bKdxdM4uVixmhy-F3xUUyOCYS1yGDXoiVZA@mail.gmail.com>
On 14.04.23 17:17, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 7:55 PM Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com> wrote:
[...]
>> Basically, what I’m hearing is that I need to implement a different
>> feature that has no practical impact right now, and also fix bugs around
>> it along the way...
>>
> To fix this properly requires iterative device migration in qemu as
> far as I know, instead of using VMStates [1]. This way the state is
> requested to virtiofsd before the device reset.
>
> What does virtiofsd do when the state is totally sent? Does it keep
> processing requests and generating new state or is only a one shot
> that will suspend the daemon? If it is the second I think it still can
> be done in one shot at the end, always indicating "no more state" at
> save_live_pending and sending all the state at
> save_live_complete_precopy.
This sounds to me as if we should reset all devices during migration,
and I don’t understand that. virtiofsd will not immediately process
requests when the state is sent, because the device is still stopped,
but when it is re-enabled (e.g. because of a failed migration), it will
have retained its state and continue processing requests as if nothing
happened. A reset would break this and other stateful back-ends, as I
think Stefan has mentioned somewhere else.
It seems to me as if there are devices that need a reset, and so need
suspend+resume around it, but I also think there are back-ends that
don’t, where this would only unnecessarily complicate the back-end
implementation.
Hanna
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-19 10:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-11 15:05 [PATCH 0/4] vhost-user-fs: Internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] vhost: Re-enable vrings after setting features Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 10:55 ` German Maglione
2023-04-12 12:18 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 20:51 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 7:17 ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-13 8:19 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 14:24 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-04-13 15:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-13 11:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:32 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 13:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 2/4] vhost-user: Interface for migration state transfer Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 9:24 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:55 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 20:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-14 15:17 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 15:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 18:55 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:11 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 10:09 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 10:45 ` Hanna Czenczek [this message]
2023-04-19 10:57 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 10:14 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-13 11:07 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 17:31 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-17 15:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 10:47 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-17 18:37 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 15:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:09 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 8:09 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-18 17:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 18:31 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-18 20:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-20 13:27 ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-05-08 19:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 6:31 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 9:01 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 15:26 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 10:57 ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 11:15 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 17:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-17 19:06 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-17 19:20 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-18 7:54 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-19 11:10 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-19 11:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-19 11:24 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-20 13:29 ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-05-08 20:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 6:45 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 15:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:35 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 17:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-20 10:44 ` Eugenio Pérez
2023-04-13 8:50 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-04-13 9:25 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 3/4] vhost: Add high-level state save/load functions Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 9:04 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 11:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-11 15:05 ` [PATCH 4/4] vhost-user-fs: Implement internal migration Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-12 21:00 ` [PATCH 0/4] vhost-user-fs: Internal migration Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-04-13 8:20 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-04-13 16:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-13 17:53 ` [Virtio-fs] " Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-04 16:05 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-04 21:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-05 9:03 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-05 9:51 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-05 14:26 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 14:37 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 17:00 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 17:51 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-08 19:31 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-09 8:59 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 15:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:43 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 9:53 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-05-05 12:51 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-08 21:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 8:53 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-05-09 14:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-09 15:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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