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From: Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
To: Valeriy Vdovin <valeriy.vdovin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Denis Lunev <den@openvz.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9] qapi: introduce 'query-kvm-cpuid' action
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 17:53:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e69ea2b4-21cc-8203-ad2d-10a0f4ffe34a@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210617153949.GA357@dhcp-172-16-24-191.sw.ru>

On 6/17/21 5:39 PM, Valeriy Vdovin wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 04:14:17PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de> writes:
>>
>>> On 6/17/21 1:09 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>> Valeriy Vdovin <valeriy.vdovin@virtuozzo.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 07:22:36AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>>> Valeriy Vdovin <valeriy.vdovin@virtuozzo.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Introducing new qapi method 'query-kvm-cpuid'. This method can be used to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's actually a QMP command.  There are no "qapi methods".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> get virtualized cpu model info generated by QEMU during VM initialization in
>>>>>>> the form of cpuid representation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Diving into more details about virtual cpu generation: QEMU first parses '-cpu'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> virtual CPU
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> command line option. From there it takes the name of the model as the basis for
>>>>>>> feature set of the new virtual cpu. After that it uses trailing '-cpu' options,
>>>>>>> that state if additional cpu features should be present on the virtual cpu or
>>>>>>> excluded from it (tokens '+'/'-' or '=on'/'=off').
>>>>>>> After that QEMU checks if the host's cpu can actually support the derived
>>>>>>> feature set and applies host limitations to it.
>>>>>>> After this initialization procedure, virtual cpu has it's model and
>>>>>>> vendor names, and a working feature set and is ready for identification
>>>>>>> instructions such as CPUID.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently full output for this method is only supported for x86 cpus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure about "currently": the interface looks quite x86-specific to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, at some point I was thinking this interface could become generic,
>>>>> but does not seem possible, so I'll remove this note.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The commit message doesn't mention KVM except in the command name.  The
>>>>>> schema provides the command only if defined(CONFIG_KVM).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you explain why you need the restriction to CONFIG_KVM?
>>>>>>
>>>>> This CONFIG_KVM is used as a solution to a broken build if --disable-kvm
>>>>> flag is set. I was choosing between this and writing empty implementation into
>>>>> kvm-stub.c
>>>>
>>>> If the command only makes sense for KVM, then it's named correctly, but
>>>> the commit message lacks a (brief!) explanation why it only makes for
>>>> KVM.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it meaningful for HVF?
>>
>> I can't see why it couldn't be.
> Should I also make some note about that in the commit message?
>>
>> Different tack: if KVM is compiled out entirely, the command isn't
>> there, and trying to use it fails like
>>
>>     {"error": {"class": "CommandNotFound", "desc": "The command query-kvm-cpuid has not been found"}}
>>
>> If KVM is compiled in, but disabled, e.g. with -machine accel=tcg, then
>> the command fails like
>>
>>     {"error": {"class": "GenericError", "desc": "VCPU was not initialized yet"}}
>>
>> This is misleading.  The VCPU is actually running, it's just the wrong
>> kind of VCPU.
>>
>>>> If it just isn't implemented for anything but KVM, then putting "kvm"
>>>> into the command name is a bad idea.  Also, the commit message should
>>>> briefly note the restriction to KVM.
>>
>> Perhaps this one is closer to reality.
>>
> I agree.
> What command name do you suggest?

query-exposed-cpuid?


>>>> Pick one :)
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>



  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-17 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-03  9:07 [PATCH v9] qapi: introduce 'query-kvm-cpuid' action Valeriy Vdovin
2021-06-03 12:29 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-06-17  5:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-17  7:49   ` Valeriy Vdovin
2021-06-17 11:09     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-17 11:56       ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-17 14:14         ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-17 15:39           ` Valeriy Vdovin
2021-06-17 15:53             ` Claudio Fontana [this message]
2021-06-17 16:51               ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-06-18  5:52                 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-18 20:40                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-06-21  6:19                     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-21  8:07                     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-21 14:23                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-06-21 15:50                         ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-21 16:09                           ` Valeriy Vdovin
2021-06-30  7:28                             ` Valeriy Vdovin
2021-06-17 11:58     ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-17 13:47       ` Valeriy Vdovin

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