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From: Like Xu <like.xu.linux@gmail.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	xiangfeix.ma@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386: Disable BTS and PEBS
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 10:42:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e71d9885-b12e-e360-0efc-99e182bc7fb3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ytb9kTFtnltT3fdf@google.com>

On 20/7/2022 2:53 am, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 7/18/22 22:12, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> This needs to be fixed in the kernel because old QEMU/new KVM is supported.
>>>
>>> I can't object to adding a quirk for this since KVM is breaking userspace, but on
>>> the KVM side we really need to stop "sanitizing" userspace inputs unless it puts
>>> the host at risk, because inevitably it leads to needing a quirk.
>>
>> The problem is not the sanitizing, it's that userspace literally cannot know
>> that this needs to be done because the feature bits are "backwards" (1 =
>> unavailable).
> 
> Yes, the bits being inverted contributed to KVM not providing a way for userspace
> to enumerate PEBS and BTS support, but lack of enumeration is a seperate issue.
> 
> If KVM had simply ignored invalid guest state from the get go, then userspace would
> never have gained a dependency on KVM sanitizing guest state.  The fact that KVM
> didn't enumerate support in any way is an orthogonal problem.  To play nice with
> older userspace, KVM will need to add a quirk to restore the sanizting code, but
> that doesn't solve the enumeration issue.  And vice versa, solving the enuemaration
> problem doesn't magically fix old userspace.
> 
>> The right way to fix it is probably to use feature MSRs and, by default,
>> leave the features marked as unavailable.  I'll think it through and post a
>> patch tomorrow for both KVM and QEMU (to enable PEBS).

Try to help:

KVM already have MSR_IA32_PERF_CAPABILITIES as a feature msr (to enable LBR/PEBS),
and KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY as vm ioctl extension for model specific crappiness.

> 
> Yeah, lack of CPUID bits is annoying.
> 
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-21  2:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-18  3:22 [PATCH] i386: Disable BTS and PEBS Zhenzhong Duan
2022-07-18  3:57 ` Like Xu
2022-07-18  7:44   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2022-07-18 16:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-07-18 20:12   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-19 18:18     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-07-19 18:53       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-20  2:35         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2022-07-20 15:48           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-21  2:42         ` Like Xu [this message]
2022-08-19  1:38       ` Duan, Zhenzhong

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