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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jason J. Herne" <jjherne@linux.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	alifm@linux.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] [PATCH] s390-bios: Skip bootmap signature entries
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 13:24:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e843b9eb-fd4f-eed6-aaf5-35828847d6a3@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190506132325.7c9cf997.cohuck@redhat.com>



On 06.05.19 13:23, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Mon, 6 May 2019 13:13:55 +0200
> Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 06.05.19 13:05, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 May 2019 12:46:50 +0200
>>> Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> On 06.05.19 12:34, Cornelia Huck wrote:  
>>>>> On Mon, 6 May 2019 12:18:42 +0200
>>>>> Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:  
>>>   
>>>>>> I think we should not. Those entries might have sematic elements that the guest
>>>>>> wants to enforce. I do not think that this will come, but imagine a boot entry
>>>>>> that mandates some security wishes (e.g. do only run on non-shared cores).    
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we split the namespace for BOOT_SCRIPT into 'ignore if you don't
>>>>> know what that is' and 'fail if you don't know what that is'? I'm
>>>>> completely confused how 'optional' those entries are supposed to be...    
>>>>
>>>> Since we do not know if and what future entries will come the current default
>>>> of failing seems the best approach. We can then add things to pc-bios when
>>>> necessary.  
>>>
>>> That's where I'm coming from: Have some values where unknown entries
>>> lead to (desired) failure, and others where unknown entries are simply
>>> ignored. That would give us automatic toleration for optional entries.  
>>
>> Well, this is the first new entry after 14 years of list-directed-ipl so there
>> is a slight chance to over-engineer here ;-)
>>
>> In the end this is a field that does not belong to Linux-only, it is also defined
>> by the machine architecture.
> 
> Yeah, I understand that having to get this into the main architecture
> makes this harder to change.
> 
> If there is nothing coming in the foreseeable future that would need
> toleration (and not failure), it's probably not worth spending more
> time on that and we should just go with this patch.
> 
> I'd recommend putting this (+ a rebuild) into stable as well, though,
> so that at least 4.0-stable will tolerate signatures. (Distros
> backporting this would be a good idea as well.)

Yes, that makes sense.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-06 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-29 13:09 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] s390-bios: Skip bootmap signature entries Jason J. Herne
2019-04-29 13:09 ` Jason J. Herne
2019-04-29 13:40 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-29 13:40   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-29 13:45   ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-04-29 13:45     ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-04-30  9:24     ` Peter Oberparleiter
2019-04-30  9:24       ` Peter Oberparleiter
2019-04-30  9:44       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-30  9:44         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-03  9:34 ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-03  9:34   ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-06  8:08   ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-06 13:03     ` Jason J. Herne
2019-05-06 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " David Hildenbrand
2019-05-06 10:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-05-06 10:16     ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-06 10:18       ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-06 10:34         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-06 10:46           ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-06 11:05             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-06 11:13               ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-06 11:23                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-06 11:24                   ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2019-05-06 10:14   ` Christian Borntraeger
2019-05-06 10:30     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-05-06 10:45       ` Christian Borntraeger

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