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From: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Avihai Horon <avihaih@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/12] vfio/iommufd: Introduce auto domain creation
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:47:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e9dfe18b-9f0b-46f8-b6c3-3fe453a48bd3@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <78c7c331-c4cf-4239-a875-b321ca5d7e08@redhat.com>

On 16/07/2024 10:39, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> On 7/12/24 13:46, Joao Martins wrote:
>> There's generally two modes of operation for IOMMUFD:
>>
>> * The simple user API which intends to perform relatively simple things
>> with IOMMUs e.g. DPDK. It generally creates an IOAS and attach to VFIO
>> and mainly performs IOAS_MAP and UNMAP.
>>
>> * The native IOMMUFD API where you have fine grained control of the
>> IOMMU domain and model it accordingly. This is where most new feature
>> are being steered to.
>>
>> For dirty tracking 2) 
> 
> I suppose 1) and 2) are the bullets above ?
> 
yeah

>> is required, as it needs to ensure that
>> the stage-2/parent IOMMU domain will only attach devices
>> that support dirty tracking (so far it is all homogeneous in x86, likely
>> not the case for smmuv3). Such invariant on dirty tracking provides a
>> useful guarantee to VMMs that will refuse incompatible device
>> attachments for IOMMU domains.
>>
>> Dirty tracking insurance is enforced via HWPT_ALLOC, which is
>> responsible for creating an IOMMU domain. This is contrast to the
>> 'simple API' where the IOMMU domain is created by IOMMUFD automatically
>> when it attaches to VFIO (usually referred as autodomains) but it has
>> the needed handling for mdevs.
>>
>> To support dirty tracking with the advanced IOMMUFD API, it needs
>> similar logic, where IOMMU domains are created and devices attached to
>> compatible domains. Essentially mimmicing kernel
> 
> mimmicing -> mimicking, I think.
> 

Ack

>> iommufd_device_auto_get_domain(). With mdevs given there's no IOMMU domain
>> it falls back to IOAS attach.
>>
>> The auto domain logic allows different IOMMU domains to be created when
>> DMA dirty tracking is not desired (and VF can provide it), and others where
>> it is. Here is not used in this way here given how VFIODevice migration
>> state is initialized after the device attachment. But such mixed mode of
>> IOMMU dirty tracking + device dirty tracking is an improvement that can
>> be added on. Keep the 'all of nothing' of type1 approach that we have
>> been using so far between container vs device dirty tracking.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
> 
> Reviewed-by: Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>
> 
> This needs feedback from IOMMUFD experts also.

I take it that by IOMMUFD experts you the ones more familiar with Qemu side
(Zhenzhong and/or Yi)

	Joao


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-16  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-12 11:46 [PATCH v4 00/12] hw/iommufd: IOMMUFD Dirty Tracking Joao Martins
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] vfio/pci: Extract mdev check into an helper Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:21   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16  9:33     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] vfio/iommufd: Don't initialize nor set a HOST_IOMMU_DEVICE with mdev Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:21   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 13:26   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17  1:34   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] backends/iommufd: Extend iommufd_backend_get_device_info() to fetch HW capabilities Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:22   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 13:34   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] vfio/iommufd: Return errno in iommufd_cdev_attach_ioas_hwpt() Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:27   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 13:36   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17  1:37   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] vfio/iommufd: Introduce auto domain creation Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:39   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16  9:47     ` Joao Martins [this message]
2024-07-16 12:54   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 16:04   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-16 16:44     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-16 16:46       ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17  2:52         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:09           ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17  9:28             ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17  9:31               ` Joao Martins
2024-07-18 13:47                 ` Joao Martins
2024-07-19  6:06                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17  9:48             ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:53               ` Joao Martins
2024-07-16 17:32       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17  2:18   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:04     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 10:05       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17 11:04         ` Joao Martins
2024-07-18  7:44           ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-18  9:16             ` Joao Martins
2024-07-19  2:36               ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] vfio/{iommufd,container}: Remove caps::aw_bits Joao Martins
2024-07-16 10:19   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 17:40   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-16 18:22     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 11:48       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] vfio/{iommufd, container}: Initialize HostIOMMUDeviceCaps during attach_device() Joao Martins via
2024-07-16 10:20   ` [PATCH v4 07/12] vfio/{iommufd,container}: " Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 10:40     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17  2:05   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  8:55     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 12:19   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 12:33     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 13:41       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 15:34         ` Joao Martins
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] vfio/iommufd: Probe and request hwpt dirty tracking capability Joao Martins
2024-07-16 12:21   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17 12:27   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 12:38     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 13:43       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] vfio/iommufd: Implement VFIOIOMMUClass::set_dirty_tracking support Joao Martins
2024-07-16 12:24   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17  2:24   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:14     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 12:36   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 12:41     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 13:34       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 15:18         ` Joao Martins
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] vfio/iommufd: Implement VFIOIOMMUClass::query_dirty_bitmap support Joao Martins
2024-07-16 12:31   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 12:53   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17 12:50   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] vfio/migration: Don't block migration device dirty tracking is unsupported Joao Martins
2024-07-17  2:38   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:20     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 15:35       ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 16:02         ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 16:54           ` Joao Martins
2024-07-18  7:20       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-18  9:05         ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 12:57   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] vfio/common: Allow disabling device dirty page tracking Joao Martins
2024-07-16  8:20 ` [PATCH v4 00/12] hw/iommufd: IOMMUFD Dirty Tracking Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-16  9:22   ` Joao Martins
2024-07-18  7:50     ` Duan, Zhenzhong

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