From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
peterx@redhat.com, Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
marcandre.lureau@gmail.com, wexu@redhat.com, vkaplans@redhat.com,
jfreiman@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] vhost-user: Specify and implement device IOTLB support
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 16:51:55 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea6e599e-a50f-3a1c-c61e-fdfcbf706e7f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170602180458-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On 2017年06月02日 23:24, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 01:53:11PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>
>> On 2017年06月01日 21:59, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:33:33PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> On 2017年05月31日 02:20, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 04:28:52PM +0200, Maxime Coquelin wrote:
>>>>>> This series aims at specifying ans implementing the protocol update
>>>>>> required to support device IOTLB with user backends.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this second non-RFC version, main changes are:
>>>>>> - spec fixes and clarification
>>>>>> - rings information update has been restored back to ring enablement time
>>>>>> - Work around GCC 4.4.7 limitation wrt assignment in unnamed union at
>>>>>> declaration time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The series can be tested with vhost_iotlb_proto_v2 branch on my gitlab
>>>>>> account[0].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The slave requests channel part is re-used from Marc-André's series submitted
>>>>>> last year[1], with main changes from original version being request/feature
>>>>>> names renaming and addition of the REPLY_ACK feature support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding IOTLB protocol, one noticeable change is the IOTLB miss request
>>>>>> reply made optionnal (i.e. only if slave requests it by setting the
>>>>>> VHOST_USER_NEED_REPLY flag in the message header). This change provides
>>>>>> more flexibility in the backend implementation of the feature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The protocol is very close to kernel backends, except that a new
>>>>>> communication channel is introduced to enable the slave to send
>>>>>> requests to the master.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [0]:https://gitlab.com/mcoquelin/dpdk-next-virtio/commits/vhost_iotlb_proto_v2
>>>>>> [1]:https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-04/msg00095.html
>>>>> Overall, this looks good to me. I do think patch 3 isn't a good idea
>>>>> though, if slave wants something let it request it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Need to find out why does vhost in kernel want the used ring iotlb at
>>>>> start time - especially considering we aren't even guaranteed one entry
>>>>> covers the whole ring, and invalidates should affect all addresses at
>>>>> least in theory.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The reason is probably we want to verify whether or not we could correctly
>>>> access used ring in vhost_vq_init_access(). It was there since vhost_net is
>>>> introduced. We can think to remove this limitation maybe.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>> Well that's only called if iotlb is disabled:
>>>
>>> if (!vq->iotlb &&
>>> !access_ok(VERIFY_READ, &vq->used->idx, sizeof vq->used->idx)) {
>>> r = -EFAULT;
>>> goto err;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Could you try removing that and see what breaks?
>>>
>> Looks not, the issue is vhost_update_used_flags() which needs device IOTLB
>> translation. If we don't fill IOTLB in advance, it will return -EFAULT.
> Same for vhost_get_used, right?
Yes.
>
>> For simplicity, I don't implement control path device IOTLB miss.
>
> OK so this should be documented in vhost.h. SET_BACKEND immediately
> writes and reads used ring. User must know this and pre-fault used flags
> and index before setting backend.
Ok.
>> If you
>> care about the incomplete length, we can refine vhost_iotlb_miss() to make
>> sure it covers all size.
>>
>> Thanks
> No need imho, it's only the used flags field that's written, and the
> index that's read right?
Yes.
> BTW I don't really know why do we do the write
> when event index is setup. We probably shouldn't, should we?
Yes, looks like we shouldn't.
>
> It's worth considering whether we want this write into used ring at all.
> I put it there originally to help make sure we don't miss the first exit, but
> event index seems to get by fine without this. So why does non event
> index code want it?
Spec said driver must initialize it to zero, so unless we want to
workaround a buggy driver we can remove this.
>
> I think that if we could get rid of both accesses, it would be
> nice. Would need a feature bit naturally and we'd need to
> support old kernels but at least it will be contained and
> well documented.
>
Technically we can, but we still need a workaround for old kernels. So
I'm not sure it's worth to do.
Thanks
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-05 8:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-26 14:28 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] vhost-user: Specify and implement device IOTLB support Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-26 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/6] vhost: propagate errors in vhost_device_iotlb_miss() Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-26 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/6] vhost: rework IOTLB messaging Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-26 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/6] vhost: extend ring information update for IOTLB to all rings Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-30 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-30 21:06 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-30 21:11 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-31 15:20 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-06-01 13:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-01 13:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-31 8:48 ` Jason Wang
2017-05-26 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/6] vhost-user: add vhost_user to hold the chr Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-26 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/6] vhost-user: add slave-req-fd support Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-30 18:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-30 21:26 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-26 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/6] spec/vhost-user spec: Add IOMMU support Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-30 18:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-30 16:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] vhost-user: Specify and implement device IOTLB support Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-30 18:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-31 8:33 ` Jason Wang
2017-05-31 15:32 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-06-01 7:04 ` Jason Wang
2017-06-01 8:39 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-06-01 13:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-02 5:53 ` Jason Wang
2017-06-02 15:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-05 8:51 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2017-06-05 15:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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