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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Alberto Garcia <berto@igalia.com>, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] qcow2: Force preallocation with data-file-raw
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 11:48:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eaa796ca-9379-def8-0c2c-0f4b3ca500de@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c14c622-eb30-4619-d33a-b59395a397be@redhat.com>


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On 22.06.20 11:35, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 19.06.20 18:47, Alberto Garcia wrote:
>> On Fri 19 Jun 2020 12:40:11 PM CEST, Max Reitz wrote:
>>> +    if (qcow2_opts->data_file_raw &&
>>> +        qcow2_opts->preallocation == PREALLOC_MODE_OFF)
>>> +    {
>>> +        /*
>>> +         * data-file-raw means that "the external data file can be
>>> +         * read as a consistent standalone raw image without looking
>>> +         * at the qcow2 metadata."  It does not say that the metadata
>>> +         * must be ignored, though (and the qcow2 driver in fact does
>>> +         * not ignore it), so the L1/L2 tables must be present and
>>> +         * give a 1:1 mapping, so you get the same result regardless
>>> +         * of whether you look at the metadata or whether you ignore
>>> +         * it.
>>> +         */
>>> +        qcow2_opts->preallocation = PREALLOC_MODE_METADATA;
>>
>> I'm not convinced by this,
> 
> Why not?
> 
> This is how I read the spec.  Furthermore, I see two problems that we
> have right now that are fixed by this patch (namely (1) using a device
> file as the external data file, which may have non-zero data at
> creation; and (2) assigning a backing file at runtime must not show the
> data).
> 
>> but your comment made me think of another
>> possible alternative: in qcow2_get_cluster_offset(), if the cluster is
>> unallocated and we are using a raw data file then we return _ZERO_PLAIN:
>>
>> --- a/block/qcow2-cluster.c
>> +++ b/block/qcow2-cluster.c
>> @@ -654,6 +654,10 @@ out:
>>      assert(bytes_available - offset_in_cluster <= UINT_MAX);
>>      *bytes = bytes_available - offset_in_cluster;
>>  
>> +    if (type == QCOW2_CLUSTER_UNALLOCATED && data_file_is_raw(bs)) {
>> +        type = QCOW2_CLUSTER_ZERO_PLAIN;
>> +    }
>> +
>>      return type;
>>
>> You could even add a '&& bs->backing' to the condition and emit a
>> warning to make it more explicit.
> 
> No, this is wrong.  This still wouldn’t fix the problem of having a
> device file as the external data file, when it already has non-zero data
> during creation.  (Reading the qcow2 file would return zeroes, but
> reading the device would not.)
> 
> So it would need to be QCOW2_CLUSTER_NORMAL.  Which is kind of the
> point, when you think about it – with data-file-raw, all clusters must
> always effectively be QCOW2_CLUSTER_NORMAL and be mapped 1:1.
> 
> Well, and that’s in turn the point of this patch.
> 
> I interpret the spec in that the metadata can be ignored, but it does
> not need to be ignored.  So the L1/L2 tables must be 1:1 mapping of
> QCOW2_CLUSTER_NORMAL entries.
> 
> We could also choose to interpret it as “With data-file-raw, the L1/L2
> tables must be ignored”.  In that case, our qcow2 driver would need to
> be modified to indeed fully ignore the L1/L2 tables with data-file-raw.
>  (I certainly don’t interpret the spec this way, but I suppose we could
> call it a bug fix and amend it.)

I just realized that this is not possible.  data-file-raw is an
autoclear flag, so the image must appear the same to qemu versions that
do not support it.

If we want to fully ignore the L1/L2 tables or interpret them some
non-default way (like you’re proposing), we would have to add a new
incompatible flag.

Max


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-22  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-19 10:40 [PATCH 0/2] qcow2: Force preallocation with data-file-raw Max Reitz
2020-06-19 10:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Max Reitz
2020-06-19 16:47   ` Alberto Garcia
2020-06-22  9:35     ` Max Reitz
2020-06-22  9:48       ` Max Reitz [this message]
2020-06-23 10:26         ` Kevin Wolf
2020-06-22 14:46       ` Alberto Garcia
2020-06-22 15:06         ` Max Reitz
2020-06-22 15:15           ` Nir Soffer
2020-06-22 15:48             ` Max Reitz
2020-06-22 18:34               ` Eric Blake
2020-06-22 17:36           ` Alberto Garcia
2020-06-23  7:28             ` Max Reitz
2020-06-19 10:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] iotests/244: Test preallocation for data-file-raw Max Reitz
2020-06-19 11:55 ` [PATCH 0/2] qcow2: Force preallocation with data-file-raw no-reply
2020-06-21 22:25 ` Nir Soffer
2020-06-22  9:47   ` Max Reitz
2020-06-22 15:50     ` Nir Soffer
2020-06-23 10:18       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-06-22 17:44     ` Alberto Garcia
2020-06-23  7:28       ` Max Reitz
2020-06-23 10:04         ` Kevin Wolf

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