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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1] s390x/tod: properly stop the KVM TOD while the guest is not running
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:03:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed45438f-a388-c5d3-92b7-99b5010e6922@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6aabbad7-885a-0ed9-15d9-fbfd89148e94@redhat.com>

On 2018-11-27 13:50, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 27.11.18 13:19, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> On 2018-11-27 12:41, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> Just like on other architectures, we should stop the clock while the guest
>>> is not running. This is already properly done for TCG. Right now, doing an
>>> offline migration (stop, migrate, cont) can easily trigger stalls in the
>>> guest.
>>>
>>> Even doing a
>>>     (hmp) stop
>>>     ... wait 2 minutes ...
>>>     (hmp) cont
>>> will already trigger stalls.
>>>
>>> So whenever the guest stops, backup the KVM TOD. When continuning to run
>>> the guest, restore the KVM TOD.
>>>
>>> One special case is starting a simple VM: Reading the TOD from KVM to
>>> stop it right away until the guest is actually started means that the
>>> time of any simple VM will already differ to the host time. We can
>>> simply leave the TOD running and the guest won't be able to recognize
>>> it.
>>>
>>> For migration, we actually want to keep the TOD stopped until really
>>> starting the guest. To be able to catch most errors, we should however
>>> try to set the TOD in addition to simply storing it. So we can still
>>> catch basic migration problems.
>>>
>>> If anything goes wrong while backing up/restoring the TOD, we have to
>>> ignore it (but print a warning). This is then basically a fallback to
>>> old behavior (TOD remains running).
>>>
>>> I tested this very basically with an initrd:
>>>     1. Start a simple VM. Observed that the TOD is kept running. Old
>>>        behavior.
>>>     2. Ordinary live migration. Observed that the TOD is temporarily
>>>        stopped on the destination when setting the new value and
>>>        correctly started when finally starting the guest.
>>>     3. Offline live migration. (stop, migrate, cont). Observed that the
>>>        TOD will be stopped on the source with the "stop" command. On the
>>>        destination, the TOD is temporarily stopped when setting the new
>>>        value and correctly started when finally starting the guest via
>>>        "cont".
>>>     4. Simple stop/cont correctly stops/starts the TOD. (multiple stops
>>>        or conts in a row have no effect, so works as expected)
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>  hw/s390x/tod-kvm.c     | 88 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>>  include/hw/s390x/tod.h |  7 +++-
>>>  2 files changed, 92 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>> [...]
>>> @@ -49,10 +112,31 @@ static void kvm_s390_tod_class_init(ObjectClass *oc, void *data)
>>>      tdc->set = kvm_s390_tod_set;
>>>  }
>>>  
>>> +static void kvm_s390_tod_init(Object *obj)
>>> +{
>>> +    S390TODState *td = S390_TOD(obj);
>>> +
>>> +    /*
>>> +     * The TOD is initially running (value stored in KVM). Avoid needless
>>> +     * loading/storing of the TOD when starting a simple VM, so let it
>>> +     * run although the (never started) VM is stopped. For migration, we
>>> +     * will properly set the TOD later.
>>> +     */
>>> +    td->stopped = false;
>>> +
>>> +    /*
>>> +     * We need to know when the VM gets started/stopped to start/stop the TOD.
>>> +     * As we can never have more than one TOD instance (and that will never be
>>> +     * removed), registering here and never unregistering is good enough.
>>> +     */
>>> +    qemu_add_vm_change_state_handler(kvm_s390_tod_vm_state_change, td);
>>
>> I think you should rather do this in a realize() function instead, since
>> instance_init can be called multiple times (during introspection of the
>> object, for example). See my blog article here for some details:
>>
>> https://people.redhat.com/~thuth/blog/qemu/2018/09/10/instance-init-realize.html
> 
> 
> Even for types that cannot be created by the user?

Yes, you still can run "device_add s390-tod-kvm,help" at the HMP prompt,
or introspect the device via QMP. Both will trigger a temporary instance
of the device, where instance_init is executed.

 Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-27 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-27 11:41 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1] s390x/tod: properly stop the KVM TOD while the guest is not running David Hildenbrand
2018-11-27 12:19 ` Thomas Huth
2018-11-27 12:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-27 13:03     ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2018-11-27 12:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-27 12:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-27 13:17   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-27 12:43 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-11-27 12:48   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-27 12:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-27 13:06   ` Thomas Huth
2018-11-27 13:11     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-11-27 13:16     ` David Hildenbrand

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