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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC qemu 0/6] mirror: implement incremental and bitmap modes
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 13:04:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef545f46-7cbb-43f0-2ab8-f3d49643d1e6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1599127031.9uxdp5h9o2.astroid@nora.none>


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On 03.09.20 12:13, Fabian Grünbichler wrote:
> On August 21, 2020 3:03 pm, Max Reitz wrote:
>> On 18.02.20 11:07, Fabian Grünbichler wrote:
>>
>> [Sorry :/]
> 
> same, I've been meaning to ping/pick this back up but other stuff got in 
> the way. so thanks for the reminder to get this upstream ;)
> 
>>
>>> picking up on John's in-progress patch series from last summer, this is
>>> a stab at rebasing and adding test cases for the low-hanging fruits:
>>>
>>> - bitmap mirror mode with always/on-success/never bitmap sync mode
>>> - incremental mirror mode as sugar for bitmap + on-success
>>>
>>> Fabian Grünbichler (4):
>>>   mirror: add check for bitmap-mode without bitmap
>>>   mirror: switch to bdrv_dirty_bitmap_merge_internal
>>>   iotests: add test for bitmap mirror
>>>   mirror: move some checks to QMP
>>>
>>> John Snow (2):
>>>   drive-mirror: add support for sync=bitmap mode=never
>>>   drive-mirror: add support for conditional and always bitmap sync modes
>>
>> Looks reasonable to me.  I would indeed merge patches 2 through 4 into a
>> single one, and perhaps switch patches 5 and 6.
>>
>> Also, we still need an S-o-b from John on patch 2.
>>
>> I have one question: When the mirror job completes successfully (or is
>> cancelled “successfully”), the bitmap is always fully cleared when the
>> job completes, right?  (Unless in “never” mode.)
> 
> I have to take a closer look as well, it's been a while ;)

No problem, I’m... *cough* not exactly in a hurry.

> IIRC the idea 
> was that failed mirrors would allow re-using the bitmap for a next 
> attempt, unless the mode is always. we are not using that feature (yet) 
> though (see below).
> 
>> Not that I think we should change the current implementation of “clear
>> sync_bitmap; merge dirty_bitmap into sync_bitmap;”.  Just a question for
>> understanding.
>>
>>
>> Soo...  What’s the plan?
> 
> I'll rebase, squash as suggested and resend next week!

OK :)

> I am not sure how 
> the S-O-B by John is supposed to enter the mix - should I just include 
> it in the squashed patch (which would be partly authored, but 
> not-yet-signed-off by him otherwise?)?

I’m not too sure on the proceedings, actually.  I think it should be
fine if you put his S-o-b there, as long as your patch is somehow based
on a patch that he sent earlier with his S-o-b underneath.  But I’m not
sure.

> do you pick it up once he's replied with one?

Yes, that’s what would be best.

> FWIW, with been running with this for quite a while downstream with no 
> issues, but we are only using the following part:
> 
> - create bitmap(s)
> - (incrementally) replicate storage volume(s) out of band (using ZFS)
> - incrementally drive mirror as part of a live migration of VM
> - drop bitmap(s)
> 
> so no fancy semi-permanent bitmap that gets re-used here. I've been 
> toying with implementing some sort of generic replication feature akin 
> to zfs send/recv though, but given that we only have built-in persistent 
> bitmaps with qcow2 and the chance of some other tool or the user messing 
> up other image formats is high, the safe usage scenarios are a bit 
> limited.

OK.

> we do use such long-running bitmaps for our new backup driver though, 
> and it works quite well there!

Good! :)

Max


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-03 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-18 10:07 [RFC qemu 0/6] mirror: implement incremental and bitmap modes Fabian Grünbichler
2020-02-18 10:07 ` [RFC qemu 1/6] drive-mirror: add support for sync=bitmap mode=never Fabian Grünbichler
2020-02-18 10:07 ` [RFC qemu 2/6] drive-mirror: add support for conditional and always bitmap sync modes Fabian Grünbichler
2020-02-18 10:07 ` [RFC qemu 3/6] mirror: add check for bitmap-mode without bitmap Fabian Grünbichler
2020-02-18 10:07 ` [RFC qemu 4/6] mirror: switch to bdrv_dirty_bitmap_merge_internal Fabian Grünbichler
2020-02-18 10:07 ` [RFC qemu 5/6] iotests: add test for bitmap mirror Fabian Grünbichler
2020-02-18 10:07 ` [RFC qemu 6/6] mirror: move some checks to QMP Fabian Grünbichler
2020-02-18 10:43 ` [RFC qemu 0/6] mirror: implement incremental and bitmap modes no-reply
2020-02-25 21:54 ` John Snow
2020-04-03 11:34   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2020-08-21 13:03 ` Max Reitz
2020-08-24 15:54   ` John Snow
2020-09-03 10:13   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2020-09-03 11:04     ` Max Reitz [this message]
2020-09-03 12:38       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-09-03 12:57         ` Max Reitz
2020-09-03 13:23           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-09-03 13:36             ` Fabian Grünbichler
2020-09-03 13:43               ` Kevin Wolf
2020-09-03 13:51               ` Max Reitz

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