From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Kang, Luwei" <luwei.kang@intel.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"rth@twiddle.net" <rth@twiddle.net>,
"mtosatti@redhat.com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
"libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RESEND v1 1/2] i386: Add Intel Processor Trace feature support
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 10:19:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef82c99e-541b-c3fb-c454-cf44fc51eb56@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <82D7661F83C1A047AF7DC287873BF1E167E7D6CB@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On 22/01/2018 11:36, Kang, Luwei wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 03:44:49PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> On 18/01/2018 15:37, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 02:39:57PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/01/2018 14:24, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>>>>>>> However, if there's a simple way to make it possible to migrate
>>>>>>> between hosts with different CPUID[14h] data, it would be even
>>>>>>> better. With the current KVM intel-pt implementation, what
>>>>>>> happens if the CPUID[14h] data seen by the guest doesn't match
>>>>>>> exactly the CPUID[14h] leaves from the host?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some bits in there can be treated as CPU features (e.g. EBX bit 0
>>>>>> "CR3 filtering support"). Probably we should handle these in KVM right now.
>>>>>> KVM needs to compute a mask of valid 1 bits for IA32_RTIT_CTL based
>>>>>> on CPUID, and apply it when the MSR is written.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this mean QEMU can't set CPUID values that won't match the host
>>>>> with the existing implementation, or this won't matter for
>>>>> well-behaved guests that don't try to set reserved bits on the MSRs?
>>>>
>>>> All the features could be handled exactly like regular feature bits.
>>>> If QEMU sets them incorrectly and "enforce" is not used, bad things
>>>> happen but it's the user's fault.
>>>
>>> Oh, I mean setting the bit to 0 when it's 1 on the host (if it's
>>> 0 on the host, QEMU would never set it anyway). Is it safe to do it
>>> with the current KVM intel-pt implementation?
>>
>> It's not, but it's (very) easy to fix.
>
> Hi Paolo,
> Do you mean there need to add some check before setting IA32_RTIT_CTL
> MSR in KVM because some bits of this MSR is depend on the result of
> CPUID[14]. Any attempts to change these reserved bit should cause a #GP.
Yes, but the guest's CPUID[14] need not match the host.
Likewise, the number of address range MSRs in the guest, from
CPUID[EAX=14h,ECX=1].EAX[2:0], might be lower than in the host.
>>>>>> It also needs to
>>>>>> whitelist bits like we do for other feature words. These include:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - CPUID[EAX=14h,ECX=0].EBX
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - CPUID[EAX=14h,ECX=0].ECX except bit 31
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - CPUID[EAX=14h,ECX=1].EAX bits 16:31 (if
>>>>>> CPUID[EAX=14h,ECX=0].EBX[3]=1)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - CPUID[EAX=14h,ECX=1].EBX (if CPUID[EAX=14h,ECX=0].EBX[1]=1)
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean by whitelist?
>>>>
>>>> KVM needs to tell QEMU the bits it knows about.
>
> I think kvm_arch_get_supported_cpuid() function can get the result of CPUID[14] from KVM. Is this the whitelist what you mentioned?
Whitelist means that KVM must not return all the bits from CPUID[14];
only those it knows about.
Paolo
> Thanks,
> Luwei Kang
>
>>>
>>> So KVM isn't currently doing it on GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID? Oops.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Others, currently only CPUID[EAX=14h,ECX=0].ECX[31] must match,
>>>>>> there is no way to emulate the "wrong" value.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case we could make it configurable but require the host and
>>>>> guest value to always match.
>>>>>
>>>>> This might be an obstacle to enabling intel-pt by default (because
>>>>> it could make VMs not migratable to newer hosts), but may allow the
>>>>> feature to be configured in a predictable way.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, but consider that virtualized PT anyway would only be enabled
>>>> on Ice Lake processors. It's a few years away anyway!
>>>>
>>>>>> Others, currently only CPUID[EAX=14h,ECX=1].EAX[2:0] are numeric
>>>>>> values, and it's possible to emulate a lower value than the one in the processor.
>>>>>
>>>>> This could be handled by QEMU. There's no requirement that all
>>>>> GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID values should be validated by simple bit
>>>>> masking.
>>>>
>>>> Good!
>>>>
>>>> Paolo
>>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-26 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-08 20:36 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RESEND v1 1/2] i386: Add Intel Processor Trace feature support Luwei Kang
2018-01-08 20:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RESEND v1 2/2] i386: Add support to get/set/migrate Intel Processor Trace feature Luwei Kang
2018-01-12 14:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RESEND v1 1/2] i386: Add Intel Processor Trace feature support Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-15 7:19 ` Kang, Luwei
2018-01-15 9:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-15 14:04 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-15 14:25 ` Jiri Denemark
2018-01-15 14:31 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-16 6:10 ` Kang, Luwei
2018-01-16 11:51 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-17 10:32 ` Kang, Luwei
2018-01-18 2:42 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-18 5:33 ` Kang, Luwei
2018-01-18 13:24 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-18 13:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-18 14:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-18 14:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-18 16:52 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-18 16:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-22 10:36 ` Kang, Luwei
2018-01-26 9:19 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-01-22 10:45 ` Kang, Luwei
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