From: Manos Pitsidianakis <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>
To: "Antonio Caggiano" <quic_acaggian@quicinc.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrangé " <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Mads Ynddal" <mads@ynddal.dk>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Alex Benn é e" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
"Marc-Andr é Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daud é " <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
"Gustavo Romero" <gustavo.romero@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] Implement ARM PL011 in Rust
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 15:49:17 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ex2dt.gwm832c27uu@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e76ba00c-0b9c-42ad-93e2-13a2e6662c60@quicinc.com>
Hello Antonio!
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 15:45, Antonio Caggiano <quic_acaggian@quicinc.com> wrote:
>Hi there :)
>
>On 11/06/2024 12:58, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 13:57, "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 11:29:36PM +0300, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:37, Pierrick Bouvier
>>>> <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>> > Hello Manos,
>>>> > > On 6/10/24 11:22, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
>>>> > > Hello everyone,
>>>> > > > > This is an early draft of my work on implementing a very
>>>> simple device,
>>>> > > in this case the ARM PL011 (which in C code resides in
>>>> hw/char/pl011.c
>>>> > > and is used in hw/arm/virt.c).
>>>> > > > > The device is functional, with copied logic from the C code
>>>> but with
>>>> > > effort not to make a direct C to Rust translation. In other
>>>> words, do
>>>> > > not write Rust as a C developer would.
>>>> > > > > That goal is not complete but a best-effort case. To give a
>>>> specific
>>>> > > example, register values are typed but interrupt bit flags are
>>>> not (but
>>>> > > could be). I will leave such minutiae for later iterations.
>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>>> > Maybe it could be better if build.rs file was *not* needed for new
>>>> > devices/folders, and could be abstracted as a detail of the python
>>>> > wrapper script instead of something that should be committed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That'd mean you cannot work on the rust files with a LanguageServer, you
>>>> cannot run cargo build or cargo check or cargo clippy, etc. That's why I
>>>> left the alternative choice of including a manually generated
>>>> bindings file
>>>> (generated.rs.inc)
>>>
>>> I would not expect QEMU developers to be running 'cargo <anything>'
>>> directly at all.
>>>
>>> QEMU's build system is 'meson' + 'ninja' with a 'configure' + 'make'
>>> convenience facade.
>>>
>>> Any use of 'cargo' would be an internal impl detail of meson rules
>>> for building rust code, and developers should still exclusively work
>>> with 'make' or 'ninja' to run builds & tests.
>>
>> No, that's not true. If I wrote the pl011 device with this workflow I'd
>> just waste time using meson. Part of the development is making sure the
>> library type checks, compiles, using cargo to run style formatting, to
>> check for lints, perhaps run tests. Doing this only through meson is an
>> unnecessary complication.
>>
>
>My favorite tool for Rust development is rust-analyzer, which works very
>well with cargo-based projects. Making it work with meson is just a
>matter of pointing rust-analyzer to the rust-project.json file generated
>by meson at configuration time (just like compile_commands.json).
That's only generated for meson rust targets, whereas we are currently
compiling with a cargo wrapper script.
>
>Unfortunately, rust-analyzer also relies on cargo for doing its check. I
>was able to override that with ninja, but it requires `meson setup` with
>`RUSTFLAGS="--emit=metadata --error-format=json"`. That makes
>rust-analyzer happy, but compilation output is not readable anymore
>being json-like.
>
>I ended up working with 2 build folders, one for me, one for
>rust-analyzer. So, yeah, it complicates a bit.
>
>> To compile and run QEMU with a rust component, sure, you'd use meson.
>>
>
>Cheers,
>Antonio
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-11 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-10 18:22 [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] Implement ARM PL011 in Rust Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 18:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/6] build-sys: Add rust feature option Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 19:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-06-11 14:19 ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 17:53 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 18:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-06-12 8:04 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12 8:25 ` Marc-André Lureau
2024-06-10 18:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/6] DO NOT MERGE: add rustdoc build for gitlab pages Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 18:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/6] DO NOT MERGE: replace TYPE_PL011 with x-pl011-rust in arm virt machine Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 18:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 6/6] DO NOT MERGE: update rustdoc gitlab pages gen Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] Implement ARM PL011 in Rust Pierrick Bouvier
2024-06-10 20:29 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 21:38 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-06-11 5:47 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 9:21 ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 15:32 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-06-11 8:02 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 9:18 ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 10:57 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 10:58 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 11:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 11:32 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 12:51 ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 12:54 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 12:45 ` Antonio Caggiano
2024-06-11 12:49 ` Manos Pitsidianakis [this message]
2024-06-10 19:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-06-10 20:15 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 20:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-06-11 8:42 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 9:30 ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 13:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-11 8:11 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-11 8:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 9:53 ` Zhao Liu
2024-06-11 10:50 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 8:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 9:45 ` Zhao Liu
2024-06-11 10:41 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 14:32 ` Zhao Liu
2024-06-11 10:40 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 13:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-11 14:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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