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From: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Amit Shah" <amit@kernel.org>, "Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	"Fam Zheng" <famz@redhat.com>, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Laine Stump" <laine@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Caio Carrara" <ccarrara@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 v2] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:20:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f2244e2026af0d3b067bfdfc5e0d676c2ec21e33.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181120140251-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Tue, 2018-11-20 at 14:14 -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 01:27:05PM +0100, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 14:14 -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > Well it works now - connect it to a bus and it figures out whether it
> > > should do transitional or not. You can force transitional in PCIe anyway
> > > but then you are limited to about 15 devices - probably sufficient for
> > > most people ...
> > 
> > That's not how it works, though: current virtio-*-pci devices will
> > be transitional (and thus support older guest OS) or not based on
> > the kind of slot you plug them into.
> > 
> > From the management point of view that's problematic, because libvirt
> > (which takes care of the virtual hardware, including assigning PCI
> > addresses to devices) has no knowledge of the guest OS running on
> > said hardware, and management apps (which know about the guest OS and
> > can figure out its capabilities using libosinfo) don't want to be in
> > the business of assigning PCI addresses themselves.
> > 
> > Having separate transitional and non-transitional variants solves the
> > issue because now management apps can query libosinfo to figure out
> > whether the guest OS supports non-transitional virtio devices, and
> > based on that they can ask libvirt to use either the transitional or
> > non-transitional variant; from that, libvirt will be able to choose
> > the correct slot for the device.
> > 
> > None of the above quite works if we have a single variant that
> > morphs based on the slot, as we have today.
> 
> So can we get an ack on the patchset then?

Sure thing - whatever it might be worth :)

  Acked-by: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>

-- 
Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-21 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-14 23:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 v2] virtio: Provide version-specific variants of virtio PCI devices Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-15  8:40 ` no-reply
2018-11-15 10:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-15 10:50   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-15 10:52     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-20  0:44     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-20 10:46       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-20 10:52       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-20 11:51         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-15 11:21 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-15 15:01   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-27  0:35   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-15 16:29 ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-11-16  3:45   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-19 10:41     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-19 18:07       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-19 18:32         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-19 18:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-19 18:56             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-19 19:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-20 12:27                 ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-11-20 19:14                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-21 16:20                     ` Andrea Bolognani [this message]
2018-11-19 21:32               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-20 10:35                 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-11-19 21:47         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-11-20  3:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-20  3:22             ` Eduardo Habkost

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