From: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@gmail.com>
To: quintela@redhat.com
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, dgilbert@redhat.com,
peterx@redhat.com, wei.w.wang@intel.com, jiang.biao2@zte.com.cn,
eblake@redhat.com, Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/4] migration: do not flush_compressed_data at the end of each iteration
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:54:25 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f22690e3-63d0-16e5-b2bc-de29471d3d0b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ftyq35an.fsf@trasno.org>
On 09/04/2018 12:38 AM, Juan Quintela wrote:
> guangrong.xiao@gmail.com wrote:
>> From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
>>
>> flush_compressed_data() needs to wait all compression threads to
>> finish their work, after that all threads are free until the
>> migration feeds new request to them, reducing its call can improve
>> the throughput and use CPU resource more effectively
>> We do not need to flush all threads at the end of iteration, the
>> data can be kept locally until the memory block is changed or
>> memory migration starts over in that case we will meet a dirtied
>> page which may still exists in compression threads's ring
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
>
> I am not so sure about this patch.
>
> Right now, we warantee that after each iteration, all data is written
> before we start a new round.
>
> This patch changes to only "flush" the compression threads if we have
> "synched" with the kvm migration bitmap. Idea is good but as far as I
> can see:
>
> - we already call flush_compressed_data() inside firnd_dirty_block if we
> synchronize the bitmap.
The one called in find_dirty_block is as followings:
if (migrate_use_xbzrle()) {
/* If xbzrle is on, stop using the data compression at this
* point. In theory, xbzrle can do better than compression.
*/
flush_compressed_data(rs);
}
We will call it only if xbzrle is also enabled, at this case, we will
disable compression and xbzrle for the following pages, please refer
to save_page_use_compression(). So, it can not help us if we just enabled
compression separately.
> So, at least, we need to update
> dirty_sync_count there.
I understand this is a optimization that reduces flush_compressed_data
under the if both xbzrle and compression are both enabled. However, we
can avoid it by using save_page_use_compression() to replace
migrate_use_compression().
Furthermore, in our work which will be pushed it out after this patchset
(https://marc.info/?l=kvm&m=152810616708459&w=2), we will made
flush_compressed_data() really light if there is nothing to be flushed.
So, how about just keep it at this patch and let's optimize it in our
next work? :)
>
> - queued pages are "interesting", but I am not sure if compression and
> postcopy work well together.
>
Compression and postcopy can not both be enabled, please refer to the
code in migrate_caps_check()
if (cap_list[MIGRATION_CAPABILITY_POSTCOPY_RAM]) {
if (cap_list[MIGRATION_CAPABILITY_COMPRESS]) {
/* The decompression threads asynchronously write into RAM
* rather than use the atomic copies needed to avoid
* userfaulting. It should be possible to fix the decompression
* threads for compatibility in future.
*/
error_setg(errp, "Postcopy is not currently compatible "
"with compression");
return false;
}
> So, if we don't need to call flush_compressed_data() every round, then
> the one inside find_dirty_block() should be enough. Otherwise, I can't
> see why we need this other.
>
>
> Independent of this patch:
> - We always send data for every compression thread without testing if
> there is any there.
>
Yes. That's because we will never doubly handle the page in the iteration. :)
>
>> @@ -3212,7 +3225,6 @@ static int ram_save_iterate(QEMUFile *f, void *opaque)
>> }
>> i++;
>> }
>> - flush_compressed_data(rs);
>> rcu_read_unlock();
>>
>> /*
>
> Why is not enough just to remove this call to flush_compressed_data?
Consider this case, thanks Dave to point it out. :)
===============
iteration one:
thread 1: Save compressed page 'n'
iteration two:
thread 2: Save compressed page 'n'
What guarantees that the version of page 'n'
from thread 2 reaches the destination first without
this flush?
===============
If we just remove it, we can not get this guarantee. :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-04 3:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-03 9:26 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/4] migration: compression optimization guangrong.xiao
2018-09-03 9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/4] migration: do not flush_compressed_data at the end of each iteration guangrong.xiao
2018-09-03 16:38 ` Juan Quintela
2018-09-04 3:54 ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2018-09-04 4:00 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-09-04 9:28 ` Juan Quintela
2018-09-03 9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 2/4] migration: fix calculating xbzrle_counters.cache_miss_rate guangrong.xiao
2018-09-03 17:19 ` Juan Quintela
2018-09-03 9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 3/4] migration: show the statistics of compression guangrong.xiao
2018-09-03 17:22 ` Juan Quintela
2018-09-03 9:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 4/4] migration: handle the error condition properly guangrong.xiao
2018-09-03 17:28 ` Juan Quintela
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