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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 14/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD MULTIPLE
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 20:05:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f2a45ec5-fee3-ce78-c321-d2f96bca6584@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864f3ba7-3115-c6f8-e018-15425ca67a72@twiddle.net>

On 28.02.19 18:15, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 2/28/19 12:36 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 27.02.19 17:02, Richard Henderson wrote:
>>> On 2/26/19 3:38 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> Also fairly easy to implement. One issue we have is that exceptions will
>>>> result in some vectors already being modified. At least handle it
>>>> consistently per vector by using a temporary vector. Good enough for
>>>> now, add a FIXME.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  target/s390x/insn-data.def      |  2 ++
>>>>  target/s390x/translate_vx.inc.c | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  2 files changed, 28 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> I suppose the fixme is good enough.  For the record, I think you could do the
>>> check with just two loads -- the first and last quadword.  After that, none of
>>> the other loads can fault, and you can store everything else into the
>>> destination vectors as you read them.
>>
>> Aren't such approaches prone to races if other VCPUs invalidate page
>> tables/TLB entries?
> 
> No, because...
> 
>> (or am I messing up things and the MMU of this VCPU won't be touched
>> while in this block and once we touched all applicable pages, it cannot
>> fail anymore?)
> 
> Correct.
> 
> If vcpu 1 does a global invalidate, the time at which vcpu 2 acknowledges that
> invalidate is somewhat fluid.  VCPU 2 will see an interrupt, exit at a TB
> boundary, and then acknowledge.
> 
> VCPU 1 has to wait for the ack before it knows the operation is complete.
> 
> Thus no race within any given instruction's execution.

Okay, rings a bell, thanks! :)

So for writing from helpers, I can use probe_write(). What about testing
write access from TCG code?

I could do a load, followed by a store of the loaded value. This should
work in most cases (but eventually could be observed by somebody really
wanting to observe it - which is highly unlikely).


-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-28 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-26 11:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/33] s390x/tcg: Vector Instruction Support Part 1 David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 01/33] s390x/tcg: Define vector instruction formats David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 18:24   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 02/33] s390x/tcg: Check vector register instructions at central point David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 18:26   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 03/33] s390x: Add one temporary vector register in CPU state for TCG David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 18:36   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 18:45     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 04/33] s390x/tcg: Utilities for vector instruction helpers David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 05/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR GATHER ELEMENT David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 18:44   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 06/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR GENERATE BYTE MASK David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 19:12   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 19:23     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 21:23       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 07/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR GENERATE MASK David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 21:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 15:29     ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 08/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 15:39   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  7:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-28 16:34       ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28 16:40         ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 09/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD AND REPLICATE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 15:40   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 10/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD ELEMENT David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 15:42   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 11/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD ELEMENT IMMEDIATE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 15:44   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 12/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD GR FROM VR ELEMENT David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 15:53   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  8:27     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-28 17:10       ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 13/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD LOGICAL ELEMENT AND ZERO David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 15:56   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  8:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 14/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD MULTIPLE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 16:02   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  8:36     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-28 17:15       ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28 19:05         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2019-03-01  6:34           ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 15/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD TO BLOCK BOUNDARY David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 16:08   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  8:40     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 16/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD VR ELEMENT FROM GR David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 16:08   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 17/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD VR FROM GRS DISJOINT David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 16:10   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 18/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR LOAD WITH LENGTH David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 16:12   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 19/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR MERGE (HIGH|LOW) David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 16:14   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-27 16:20   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  8:54     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 20/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR PACK David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:11   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 21/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR PACK (LOGICAL) SATURATE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:18   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-27 23:24   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 22/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR PERMUTE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:21   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 23/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR PERMUTE DOUBLEWORD IMMEDIATE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:26   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 24/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR REPLICATE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:29   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-27 23:31   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 25/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR REPLICATE IMMEDIATE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:39   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  9:07     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 26/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR SCATTER ELEMENT David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:40   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 27/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR SELECT David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:42   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  9:09     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 28/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR SIGN EXTEND TO DOUBLEWORD David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:43   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 29/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR STORE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:46   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  9:11     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 30/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR STORE ELEMENT David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:47   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 31/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR STORE MULTIPLE David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:48   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 32/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR STORE WITH LENGTH David Hildenbrand
2019-02-27 23:49   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  9:13     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-26 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 33/33] s390x/tcg: Implement VECTOR UNPACK * David Hildenbrand
2019-02-28  0:03   ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28  9:28     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-28 10:54       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-28 18:22         ` Richard Henderson
2019-02-28 19:45           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-02-28  7:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/33] s390x/tcg: Vector Instruction Support Part 1 David Hildenbrand

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