From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
f4bug@amsat.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] osdep.h: Prohibit disabling assert() in supported builds
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 14:50:05 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f40a5fc9-a140-041f-1c3c-d97036dab898@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d17lqu85.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>
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On 08/24/2017 02:51 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On 08/22/2017 06:19 AM, Halil Pasic wrote:
>>
>>> OTOH I do think this is to some degree institutionalizing a bad practice
>>> (you say we do not want to do that, but IMHO refusing to build with
>>> NDEBUG makes only sense if we want to alter the semantic of assert so
>>> that once bad becomes acceptable). I can live with that, but I'm not
>>> happy about it. Have we considered rolling our own construct which is
>>> designed to exhibit the properties we desire?
>>
>>
>> I'd prefer that if we are going to introduce our own construct that
>> always evaluates side effects, and only has a compile-time switch on
>> whether to abort() or (foolishly) plow on, that we name it something
>> without 'assert' in the name, so that reviewers don't have to be
>> confused about remembering which variant evaluates side effects. Maybe:
>>
>> q_verify(cond)
>>
>
> I vote for frying bigger fish.
>
> I also vote for using standard C when standard C is servicable.
So if it were up to me alone, the answer is:
I'm NOT going to add any new construct (whether spelled q_verify() or
otherwise), and will merely document in the commit message that we
discussed this as an alternative (so someone who wants to disable #error
can get a git history of what went into the decision).
Also, it sounds like we want to keep it #error, not #warn.
But if anyone else has strong opinions before we promote this from RFC
to actual patch, I'm still interested in your arguments.
--
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc. +1-919-301-3266
Virtualization: qemu.org | libvirt.org
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-18 22:23 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] osdep.h: Prohibit disabling assert() in supported builds Eric Blake
2017-08-18 22:57 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-08-19 7:37 ` Thomas Huth
2017-08-21 9:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-08-21 10:08 ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-05 19:45 ` Eric Blake
2017-08-22 11:19 ` Halil Pasic
2017-08-23 19:21 ` Eric Blake
2017-08-24 7:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-09-05 19:50 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2017-09-06 5:26 ` Thomas Huth
2017-09-11 10:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-11 10:40 ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-06 11:35 ` Halil Pasic
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