qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2/3] virtio network device
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:52:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f43fc5580712081152t22eb6a9fp4f3ad82e5f0ee23b@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712081645.57284.paul@codesourcery.com>

On 12/8/07, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com> wrote:
> On Saturday 08 December 2007, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > Paul Brook wrote:
> > > > virtio makes things a bit trickier though.  There's a shared ring queue
> > > > between the host and guest.  The ring queue is lock-less and depends on
> > > > the ability to atomically increment ring queue indices to be SMP safe.
> > > > Using a copy-API wouldn't be a problem for QEMU since the host and
> > > > guest are always running in lock-step.  A copy API is actually needed
> > > > to deal with differing host/guest alignment and endianness.
> > >
> > > That seems a rather poor design choice, as many architectures don't have
> > > an atomic increment instruction. Oh well.
> >
> > Most have compare-and-swap or load-locked/store-conditional
> > instructions, though, which can be used to implement atomic increment.
>
> Yes, but your "hardware" implementation has to make sure it interacts with
> those properly. It's certainly possible to implement lockless lists without
> requiring atomic increment. Most high-end hardware manages it and that
> doesn't even have coherent DMA.

If we start adding locks for IO, could we use the same locking model
more widely or make it generic so that it would support a SMP host as
well?

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-08 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-04 21:54 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] virtio network device Anthony Liguori
2007-12-04 22:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-04 23:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-12-05 17:18   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-05 17:44     ` Paul Brook
2007-12-05 20:20       ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-06  9:27         ` Jamie Lokier
2007-12-08 13:22         ` Paul Brook
2007-12-08 14:09           ` Jamie Lokier
2007-12-08 16:45             ` Paul Brook
2007-12-08 19:52               ` Blue Swirl [this message]
2007-12-08 21:55               ` Jamie Lokier
2007-12-08 22:02                 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-12  1:24                   ` Rusty Russell
2007-12-12  1:40                     ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-18  2:31                       ` Rusty Russell
2007-12-08 21:59           ` Anthony Liguori

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=f43fc5580712081152t22eb6a9fp4f3ad82e5f0ee23b@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=blauwirbel@gmail.com \
    --cc=aliguori@us.ibm.com \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=rusty@rustcorp.com.au \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).