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From: "Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Add UUID command-line option
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:45:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f43fc5580808240545u23472f09v58269a3ecc586c09@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080824122423.GA6192@minantech.com>

On 8/24/08, Gleb Natapov <gleb@qumranet.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 03:01:22PM +0300, Blue Swirl wrote:
>  > On 8/24/08, Gleb Natapov <gleb@qumranet.com> wrote:
>  > > Hello,
>  > >
>  > >   This is one more try to push this patch series into qemu. This time
>  > >  I don't use vmport interface. Instead I implemented simple communication
>  > >  channel between  qemu and BIOS using IO port.  I decided not to  use
>  > >  firmware interface since current users of the interface may depend on
>  > >  exact structure layout, so it doesn't look like a good idea to add
>  > >  arbitrary fields there. Also I don't want to copy the whole ROM into BIOS
>  > >  just to access one field of it. IO channel is implemented by the first
>  > >  patch of the series. Patches 2-5 implement UUID related stuff. Patch 6
>  > >  passes host CPU frequency to fill in SM BIOS table.
>  > >
>  > >  Please comment.
>  >
>  > I disagree about not using the firmware interface. The structure can
>  > be extended and even new versions defined, all structure users are
>  > open source.
>
> It is hard enough to change interface between qemu and bochs BIOS. How
>  complex it will be to simultaneously change interface for several boot
>  loaders.

This is because no Qemu developer has commit rights to Bochs, and
Bochs releases too infrequently. With commit rights, synchronizing a
commit would not be too difficult. And this should be needed only if
the common interface changes incompatibly.

>  >               UUID is not architecture specific, so it should use the
>  > main structure instead if the architecture specific substructure
>  > (nvram_arch*). Adding UUID to unused fields will not break anything.
>
> Most info in ohwcfg_v3_t are not needed (or can be obtained by other
>  means) by PC BIOS, so there is no point in coping the whole structure
>  into BIOS. Of cause BIOS don't have to copy entire ohwcfg_v3_t, but

For example, Bochs seems to use i440fx registers to determine the
available physical memory. This could be changed to use the
configuration structure instead. It's a matter of taste, but I would
find this an improvement.

>  access only required fields by reading only specific offsets, but then the
>  interface will be exactly like the one I proposed with only difference
>  that instead of specifying magic value (like 1 for reading UUID in my
>  patch series), BIOS will have to specify magic offset (like 0xE0).

There is no need for a magic offset, ohwcfg_v3_t is designed to be
included even from asm.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-24 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-24 11:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Add UUID command-line option Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Use IO port for qemu<->guest BIOS communication Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 17:39   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-25  9:48     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] Add -uuid command line option Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] Add "info uuid" command to monitor Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 17:43   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-25  9:46     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] Use libuuid if available Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 17:50   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-25  9:44     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] Add UUID to BIOS configuration info Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] Pass cpu speed into SM BIOS Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 18:14   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-25  9:44     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 12:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Add UUID command-line option Blue Swirl
2008-08-24 12:24   ` Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 12:45     ` Blue Swirl [this message]
2008-08-24 13:05       ` Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 13:35         ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-24 14:11           ` Gleb Natapov
2008-08-24 17:17             ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-24 19:23           ` Kevin O'Connor
2008-08-24 13:09       ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-24 13:43         ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-24 13:55           ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-24 16:56             ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-25  9:32               ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-25 14:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-24 18:50             ` Kevin O'Connor
2008-08-25  9:29               ` Avi Kivity

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