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From: "Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] pci-dma-api-v1
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:03:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f43fc5580811281103t5c396e3ay9c98b6c1658dd8dd@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081128185001.GD31011@random.random>

On 11/28/08, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 07:59:13PM +0200, Blue Swirl wrote:
>  > I don't know, here's a pointer:
>  > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2008-08/msg00092.html
>
>
> I'm in total agreement with it. The missing "proper vectored AIO
>  operations" are bdrv_aio_readv/writev ;).
>
>  I wonder how can possibly aio_readv/writev be missing in posix aio?
>  Unbelievable. It'd be totally trivial to add those to glibc, much
>  easier infact than to pthread_create by hand, but how can we add a
>  dependency on a certain glibc version? Ironically it'll be more
>  user-friendly to add dependency on linux kernel-aio implementation
>  that is already available for ages and it's guaranteed to run faster
>  (or at least not slower).

There's also lio_listio that provides for vectored AIO.

>  > Sorry, my description seems to have lead you to a totally wrong track.
>  > I meant this scenario: device (Lance Ethernet) -> DMA controller
>  > (MACIO) -> IOMMU -> physical memory. (In this case vectored DMA won't
>  > be useful since there is byte swapping involved, but serves as an
>  > example about generic DMA). At each step the DMA address is rewritten.
>  > It would be nice if the interface between Lance and DMA, DMA and IOMMU
>  > and IOMMU and memory was the same.
>
>
> No problem. So you think I should change it to qemu_dma_sg instead of
>  pci_dma_sg? We can decide it later, but surely we can think about it
>  in the meantime ;).

Yes.

>  > Here's some history, please have a look.
>  >
>  > My first failed attempt:
>  > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2007-08/msg00179.html
>  >
>  > My second failed rough sketch:
>  > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2007-10/msg00626.html
>  >
>  > Anthony's version:
>  > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2008-03/msg00474.html
>  >
>  > Anthony's second version:
>  > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2008-04/msg00077.html
>
>
> Thanks a lot for the pointers.

Perhaps you could point out why the previous attempts failed, but
yours won't? ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-28 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-27 12:35 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] pci-dma-api-v1 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-27 12:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/2] bdrv_aio_readv/writev_em Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-28 11:09   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-27 19:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] pci-dma-api-v1 Blue Swirl
2008-11-28  1:56   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-28 17:59     ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-28 18:50       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-28 19:03         ` Blue Swirl [this message]
2008-11-28 19:18           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-29 19:49             ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-30 17:20             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 22:31             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-30 18:04           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 17:41         ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/1] pci-dma-api-v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 18:36           ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2008-11-30 19:04             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 19:11               ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-30 19:20                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 21:36                   ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-30 22:54                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-30 22:50           ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-01  9:41             ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-01 16:37               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-02  9:45                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-30 22:38         ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] pci-dma-api-v1 Anthony Liguori
2008-11-30 22:51           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-30 22:34       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-29 19:48   ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-30 17:29     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 20:27       ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-30 22:33         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 22:33   ` Anthony Liguori

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