From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NMQv9-0000qj-Tx for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:54:24 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NMQv5-0000jx-GH for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:54:23 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43697 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NMQv5-0000jY-8k for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:54:19 -0500 Received: from mail-yw0-f171.google.com ([209.85.211.171]:53653) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NMQv4-0001VF-TG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:54:19 -0500 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1so4271494ywh.18 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:54:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1261134074-11795-1-git-send-email-kraxel@redhat.com> <1261134074-11795-2-git-send-email-kraxel@redhat.com> <4B2E4409.4050809@codemonkey.ws> <4B2E64FE.8060306@codemonkey.ws> <2C5D8962-8D5A-418A-AC26-E6271EA7D8B3@suse.de> From: Blue Swirl Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:53:58 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] Support PCI based option rom loading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_F=C3=A4rber?= Cc: seabios@seabios.org, QEMU Developers , Alexander Graf , Gerd Hoffmann On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Andreas F=C3=A4rber wrote: > > Am 20.12.2009 um 19:01 schrieb Alexander Graf: > >> >> On 20.12.2009, at 18:55, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> >>> Alexander Graf wrote: >>>> >>>> Don't macs usually have a powerpc vgabios? >>>> >>> I'm not certain, but this is what x86emu is for in X11. >>> >>> VGA is a PC concept and just about nothing about it really make sense o= n >>> a different architecture. =C2=A0The interface is an extension of the PC= BIOS >>> (software interrupts) and the dictated memory layouts are specific to t= he >>> x86. =C2=A0I think most non-x86 systems have to use native drivers for = whatever >>> graphics cards they support from the start. >> >> Yes. The Alpha for example used stock VGABIOSes. IIRC Sparc has its own >> graphics anyways and I don't know about the others, but I suspect they >> either use x86 VGABIOSes or no VGABIOSes. >> >> Macs are different though. IIRC they have a normal VGA interface in ppc >> logic, but I might be wrong. Maybe it's also some OpenFirmware stuff. Th= ey >> definitely don't have an x86 VGABIOS in the graphics card's rom slot, bu= t >> something different. >> >> Since we're using the Cirrus on Macs, I guess we'd need a Cirrus PPC >> VGABIOS - phew. > > ATI used to sell special "Mac Edition" graphics cards. That would seem to > back up the possibility of a ppc VGABIOS on Mac. Some Sun machines also had "ATY,Rage XL" cards but I don't know if they had special roms.