From: Steven Noonan <steven@uplinklabs.net>
To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc: alex@csgraf.de, openbios@openbios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [OpenBIOS] QEMU OpenBIOS booting?
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:56:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f488382f0904191056q1c178306j69a23c0170f006f5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090419.114724.-1622542522.imp@bsdimp.com>
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:47 AM, M. Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> In message: <f488382f0904190128l4383a56eu67a2f16eb338e61c@mail.gmail.com>
> Steven Noonan <steven@uplinklabs.net> writes:
> : I eventually decided it made more
> : sense to get QEMU working instead. I did notice that the pre-OpenBIOS
> : version of QEMU was able to boot Mac OS X via Open Hack'Ware, so I was
> : annoyed to find that OpenBIOS didn't have such support. So, I might as
> : well add it.
>
> Open Hackware was barely enough to boot older versions of Linux.
> Other operating systems that needed more extensive properties from the
> OpenFirmware device tree failed to boot because they weren't present.
> I was involved in a large effort to get FreeBSD/powerpc booting on
> QEMU only to have it fail utterly because the amount of hacking on
> OpenHackWare needed was rather large and mysterious...
>
Yes, Open Hack'Ware is as much a hack as PearPC is, in my opinion. It
uses very strange design decisions, which I suppose were inspired by
an "I'll do this later" attitude. For instance, in the CHRP script
'parser' it has, it will do a CRC of the boot script and then do a
table lookup to figure out what to do next, i.e.:
case 0xEA06C1A7:
/* MacOS 9.2 boot script:
* the XCOFF loader is embedded in the file...
*/
case 0x53A95958:
/* iBook 2 restore CD (MacOS X 10.2) */
[snip]
goto out;
case 0x8d5acb86:
/* Darwin-7.01
* The executable file is embedded after the script
*/
break;
Quite clearly, Open Hack'Ware was aptly named. It seems to have made
no effort to actually -execute- the CHRP boot-script, and instead just
do whatever would be necessary to get specific OSes working. Blech.
- Steven
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2009-04-19 8:03 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [OpenBIOS] QEMU OpenBIOS booting? Andreas Färber
2009-04-19 8:28 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 9:44 ` Andreas Färber
2009-04-19 17:47 ` M. Warner Losh
2009-04-19 17:56 ` Steven Noonan [this message]
2009-04-19 18:44 ` Blue Swirl
2009-04-19 23:18 ` M. Warner Losh
2009-04-20 19:39 ` Blue Swirl
2009-04-20 21:01 ` François Revol
2009-04-20 22:15 ` [OpenBIOS] [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 8:31 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [OpenBIOS] " Laurent Vivier
2009-05-20 13:51 ` Dave Willoughby
2009-05-20 14:14 ` Alexander Graf
[not found] ` <1240129450.5671.7.camel@Quad>
2009-04-19 18:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 19:23 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [OpenBIOS] " Blue Swirl
2009-04-19 20:00 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:08 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 20:14 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:24 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 20:33 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:48 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 21:02 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 21:32 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 22:28 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 22:36 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-20 0:15 ` malc
2009-04-20 3:27 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-20 3:50 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-26 8:13 ` Alexander Graf
2009-04-19 19:47 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 19:53 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:01 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:21 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 20:23 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:29 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-20 9:39 Laurent Vivier
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