From: Steven Noonan <steven@uplinklabs.net>
To: The OpenBIOS Mailinglist <openbios@openbios.org>,
Laurent Vivier <laurent@lvivier.info>
Cc: Alexander Graf <alex@csgraf.de>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [OpenBIOS] QEMU OpenBIOS booting?
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:28:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f488382f0904191528v93139e1seca4a02598ca2cad@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f488382f0904191432g7339e94bma81df77fae2c4e29@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Steven Noonan <steven@uplinklabs.net> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Steven Noonan <steven@uplinklabs.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Laurent Vivier <Laurent@vivier.eu> wrote:
>>> Le dimanche 19 avril 2009 à 13:33 -0700, Steven Noonan a écrit :
>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Laurent Vivier <Laurent@vivier.eu> wrote:
>>>> > Le dimanche 19 avril 2009 à 13:14 -0700, Steven Noonan a écrit :
>>>> > The problem is in OpenBios: I put some structures in memory without
>>>> > knowing this... but this is not part of openfirmware specification.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, this seems to be an undocumented Apple-ism. But since OSes
>>>> other than Mac OS X run on PowerPC macs (i.e. BSD, Linux), I must
>>>
>>> AIX is also using OpenFirmware / PPC / CHRP, and I think they don't care
>>> of Apple-ism.
>>>
>>>> assume that they are aware of these quirks and don't hammer those
>>>> memory locations. Since that's the case, it may be wise to conform to
>>>> what Apple's Open Firmware does, even if it _is_ undocumented.
>>>
>>> 'Yes, we can' (R).
>>>
>>>> How easy would it be to get OpenBIOS to load to the position Mac OS X
>>>> and BootX expect it to be? Based on what the book says, there are 8MB
>>>> of memory available to the Open Firmware, would that be enough for the
>>>> OpenBIOS executable image and any allocations it would need to
>>>> perform?
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >> the wrong location. From the book "Mac OS X Internals: A Systems
>>>> >> Approach":
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Table 45. BootX Logical Memory Map
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Starting Address Ending Address Purpose
>>>> >> 0x00000000 0x00003FFF Exception vectors.
>>>> >> 0x00004000 0x03FFFFFF Kernel image, boot structures, and drivers.
>>>> >
>>>> > I put there some memory allocation information.
>>>> >
>>>> >> 0x04000000 0x04FFFFFF File load area.
>>>> >> 0x05000000 0x053FFFFF Simple read-time cache for file system
>>>> >> metadata. Cache hits are serviced from memory, whereas cache misses
>>>> >> result in disk access.
>>>> >> 0x05400000 0x055FFFFF Malloc zone: a simple memory allocator is
>>>> >> implemented in BootX's libclite subproject. The starting and ending
>>>> >> addresses of this range define the block of memory used by the
>>>> >> allocator.
>>>> >
>>>> > BootX should use openBIOS functions to allocate memory (as Yaboot
>>>> > does...)
>>>>
>>>> Apparently BootX is tricky that way. I don't have the BootX source
>>>> code, so I can't verify the author's statement, but I would guess he
>>>> knows what he's talking about.
>>>
>>> Look here:
>>>
>>> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/tarballs/apsl/BootX-81.tar.gz
>>>
>>> (You need an Apple Developer ID)
>>>
>>
>> Aha. From sl.h:
>>
>> /*
>>
>> Memory Map: assumed 96 MB (temporarily bumping to 112 MB for 4359362)
>>
>> Physical Address
>>
>> Open Firmware Version 3x, 4x, ...
>> 00000000 - 00003FFF : Exception Vectors
>> 00004000 - 057FFFFF : Free Memory
>> // 05800000 - 05FFFFFF : OF Image (top 8 MB reserved) [96 MB map]
>> 06800000 - 06FFFFFF : OF Image (top 8 MB reserved) [112 MB map]
>>
>>
>> Logical Address
>>
>> // 96 MB map (currently unused - 4363357 tracks re-adoption)
>> 00000000 - 00003FFF : Exception Vectors
>> 00004000 - 03FFFFFF : Kernel Image, Boot Struct and Drivers (~64 MB)
>> 04000000 - 04FFFFFF : File Load Area (16 MB) [80 MB]
>> 05000000 - 053FFFFF : FS Cache (4 MB) [84 MB]
>> 05400000 - 055FFFFF : Malloc Zone (2 MB) [86 MB]
>> 05600000 - 057FFFFF : BootX Image (2 MB) [88 MB]
>> 05800000 - 05FFFFFF : Unused/OF (8 MB) [96 MB]
>>
>> // 112 MB map (per 4359362)
>> 00000000 - 00003FFF : Exception Vectors
>> 00004000 - 03FFFFFF : Kernel Image, Boot Struct and Drivers (~64 MB)
>> 04000000 - 05FFFFFF : File Load Area (32 MB) [96 MB]
>> 06000000 - 063FFFFF : FS Cache (4 MB) [100 MB]
>> 06400000 - 065FFFFF : Malloc Zone (2 MB) [102 MB]
>> 06600000 - 067FFFFF : BootX Image (2 MB) [104 MB]
>> 06800000 - 06FFFFFF : Unused/OF (8 MB) [112 MB]
>> */
>>
>>
>> The 96MB map looks like what we're trying to conform to. I wonder what
>> this "4359362" they refer to is? An internal bug number or document
>> number?
>>
>
> OK, so I guess we should use the 112MB map, since the other one says
> "currently unused", which reads to me as "deprecated".
>
> So I'm looking into changing it to load to the position Apple's Open
> Firmware would. Do these values seem right to you? (it's intentionally
> space-smashed to prevent someone applying this to mainline)
>
> diff --git a/arch/ppc/qemu/ldscript b/arch/ppc/qemu/ldscript
> index 66fcbcd..8fdf654 100644
> --- a/arch/ppc/qemu/ldscript
> +++ b/arch/ppc/qemu/ldscript
> @@ -3,15 +3,15 @@ OUTPUT_ARCH(powerpc)
>
> /* Initial load address
> */
> -BASE_ADDR = 0xfff00000;
> +BASE_ADDR = 0x06800000;
>
> -/* As NVRAM is at 0xfff04000, the .text needs to be after that
> +/* As NVRAM is at 0x06804000, the .text needs to be after that
> */
> -TEXT_ADDR = 0xfff08000;
> +TEXT_ADDR = 0x06808000;
>
> /* Hard reset vector address
> */
> -HRESET_ADDR = 0xfffffffc;
> +HRESET_ADDR = 0x06ffffff;
>
> CSTACK_SIZE = 32768; /* client stack size */
With the above numbers, I get linker problems:
target/arch/ppc/qemu/start.o: In function `vector__0x300':
(.text.vectors+0x384): relocation truncated to fit: R_PPC_ADDR24
against `.text.vectors'+c
target/arch/ppc/qemu/start.o: In function `vector__0x400':
(.text.vectors+0x484): relocation truncated to fit: R_PPC_ADDR24
against `.text.vectors'+c
I don't see why it'd do that.
>
> The only issue with doing things this way is now to figure out what to
> change this to:
>
> #define FREE_BASE 0x00004000
>
> My first thought was to utilize all 8MB of the space that Apple says
> we can have, and use any space after the OpenBIOS image. My second
> thought was: how do we know where the OpenBIOS executable image ends?
>
> Any ideas?
>
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[not found] <f488382f0904111806i64421ff8t68e6d34aa2990f3a@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <1239525550.5516.3.camel@Quad>
[not found] ` <f488382f0904142246ga431e99obe666b7fb16adb02@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <f488382f0904190050x1d6e9562sf000e9e9763735b7@mail.gmail.com>
2009-04-19 8:03 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [OpenBIOS] QEMU OpenBIOS booting? Andreas Färber
2009-04-19 8:28 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 9:44 ` Andreas Färber
2009-04-19 17:47 ` M. Warner Losh
2009-04-19 17:56 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 18:44 ` Blue Swirl
2009-04-19 23:18 ` M. Warner Losh
2009-04-20 19:39 ` Blue Swirl
2009-04-20 21:01 ` François Revol
2009-04-20 22:15 ` [OpenBIOS] [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 8:31 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [OpenBIOS] " Laurent Vivier
2009-05-20 13:51 ` Dave Willoughby
2009-05-20 14:14 ` Alexander Graf
[not found] ` <1240129450.5671.7.camel@Quad>
2009-04-19 18:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 19:23 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [OpenBIOS] " Blue Swirl
2009-04-19 20:00 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:08 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 20:14 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:24 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 20:33 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:48 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 21:02 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 21:32 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 22:28 ` Steven Noonan [this message]
2009-04-19 22:36 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-20 0:15 ` malc
2009-04-20 3:27 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-20 3:50 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-26 8:13 ` Alexander Graf
2009-04-19 19:47 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 19:53 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:01 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:21 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-19 20:23 ` Steven Noonan
2009-04-19 20:29 ` Laurent Vivier
2009-04-20 9:39 Laurent Vivier
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