From: "Mi, Dapeng" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>
To: dongli.zhang@oracle.com, Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
mtosatti@redhat.com, sandipan.das@amd.com, babu.moger@amd.com,
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zhenyuw@linux.intel.com, groug@kaod.org, lyan@digitalocean.com,
khorenko@virtuozzo.com, alexander.ivanov@virtuozzo.com,
den@virtuozzo.com, joe.jin@oracle.com,
davydov-max@yandex-team.ru, zide.chen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] target/i386/kvm: introduce 'pmu-cap-disabled' to set KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 18:06:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f4a2f801-9f82-424e-aee4-8b18add34aa6@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57b4b74d-67d2-4fcf-aa59-c788afc93619@oracle.com>
On 11/8/2024 7:44 AM, dongli.zhang@oracle.com wrote:
> Hi Zhao,
>
>
> On 11/6/24 11:52 PM, Zhao Liu wrote:
>> (+Dapang & Zide)
>>
>> Hi Dongli,
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 01:40:17AM -0800, Dongli Zhang wrote:
>>> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 01:40:17 -0800
>>> From: Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>
>>> Subject: [PATCH 2/7] target/i386/kvm: introduce 'pmu-cap-disabled' to set
>>> KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE
>>> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.43.5
>>>
>>> The AMD PMU virtualization is not disabled when configuring
>>> "-cpu host,-pmu" in the QEMU command line on an AMD server. Neither
>>> "-cpu host,-pmu" nor "-cpu EPYC" effectively disables AMD PMU
>>> virtualization in such an environment.
>>>
>>> As a result, VM logs typically show:
>>>
>>> [ 0.510611] Performance Events: Fam17h+ core perfctr, AMD PMU driver.
>>>
>>> whereas the expected logs should be:
>>>
>>> [ 0.596381] Performance Events: PMU not available due to virtualization, using software events only.
>>> [ 0.600972] NMI watchdog: Perf NMI watchdog permanently disabled
>>>
>>> This discrepancy occurs because AMD PMU does not use CPUID to determine
>>> whether PMU virtualization is supported.
>> Intel platform doesn't have this issue since Linux kernel fails to check
>> the CPU family & model when "-cpu *,-pmu" option clears PMU version.
>>
>> The difference between Intel and AMD platforms, however, is that it seems
>> Intel hardly ever reaches the “...due virtualization” message, but
>> instead reports an error because it recognizes a mismatched family/model.
>>
>> This may be a drawback of the PMU driver's print message, but the result
>> is the same, it prevents the PMU driver from enabling.
>>
>> So, please mention that KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE doesn't change the PMU
>> behavior on Intel platform because current "pmu" property works as
>> expected.
> Sure. I will mention this in v2.
>
>>> To address this, we introduce a new property, 'pmu-cap-disabled', for KVM
>>> acceleration. This property sets KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE if
>>> KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY is supported. Note that this feature currently
>>> supports only x86 hosts, as KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY is used exclusively for
>>> x86 systems.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>
>>> ---
>>> Another previous solution to re-use '-cpu host,-pmu':
>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221119122901.2469-1-dongli.zhang@oracle.com/__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Nm8Db-mwBoMIwKkRqzC9kgNi5uZ7SCIf43zUBn92Ar_NEbLXq-ZkrDDvpvDQ4cnS2i4VyKAp6CRVE12bRkMF$
>> IMO, I prefer the previous version. This VM-level KVM property is
>> difficult to integrate with the existing CPU properties. Pls refer later
>> comments for reasons.
>>
>>> accel/kvm/kvm-all.c | 1 +
>>> include/sysemu/kvm_int.h | 1 +
>>> qemu-options.hx | 9 ++++++-
>>> target/i386/cpu.c | 2 +-
>>> target/i386/kvm/kvm.c | 52 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> target/i386/kvm/kvm_i386.h | 2 ++
>>> 6 files changed, 65 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/accel/kvm/kvm-all.c b/accel/kvm/kvm-all.c
>>> index 801cff16a5..8b5ba45cf7 100644
>>> --- a/accel/kvm/kvm-all.c
>>> +++ b/accel/kvm/kvm-all.c
>>> @@ -3933,6 +3933,7 @@ static void kvm_accel_instance_init(Object *obj)
>>> s->xen_evtchn_max_pirq = 256;
>>> s->device = NULL;
>>> s->msr_energy.enable = false;
>>> + s->pmu_cap_disabled = false;
>>> }
>> The CPU property "pmu" also defaults to "false"...but:
>>
>> * max CPU would override this and try to enable PMU by default in
>> max_x86_cpu_initfn().
>>
>> * Other named CPU models keep the default setting to avoid affecting
>> the migration.
>>
>> The pmu_cap_disabled and “pmu” property look unbound and unassociated,
>> so this can cause the conflict when they are not synchronized. For
>> example,
>>
>> -cpu host -accel kvm,pmu-cap-disabled=on
>>
>> The above options will fail to launch a VM (on Intel platform).
>>
>> Ideally, the “pmu” property and pmu-cap-disabled should be bound to each
>> other and be consistent. But it's not easy because:
>> - There is no proper way to have pmu_cap_disabled set different default
>> values (e.g., "false" for max CPU and "true" for named CPU models)
>> based on different CPU models.
>> - And, no proper place to check the consistency of pmu_cap_disabled and
>> enable_pmu.
>>
>> Therefore, I prefer your previous approach, to reuse current CPU "pmu"
>> property.
> Thank you very much for the suggestion and reasons.
>
> I am going to follow your suggestion to switch back to the previous solution in v2.
+1.
I also prefer to leverage current exist "+/-pmu" option instead of adding
a new option. More options, more complexity. When they are not
inconsistent, which has higher priority? all these are issues.
Although KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY is a VM-level PMU capability, but all CPUs
in a same VM should always share same PMU configuration (Don't consider
hybrid platforms which have many issues need to be handled specifically).
>
>> Further, considering that this is currently the only case that needs to
>> to set the VM level's capability in the CPU context, there is no need to
>> introduce a new kvm interface (in your previous patch), which can instead
>> be set in kvm_cpu_realizefn(), like:
>>
>>
>> diff --git a/target/i386/kvm/kvm-cpu.c b/target/i386/kvm/kvm-cpu.c
>> index 99d1941cf51c..05e9c9a1a0cf 100644
>> --- a/target/i386/kvm/kvm-cpu.c
>> +++ b/target/i386/kvm/kvm-cpu.c
>> @@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ static bool kvm_cpu_realizefn(CPUState *cs, Error **errp)
>> {
>> X86CPU *cpu = X86_CPU(cs);
>> CPUX86State *env = &cpu->env;
>> + KVMState *s = kvm_state;
>> + static bool first = true;
>> bool ret;
>>
>> /*
>> @@ -63,6 +65,29 @@ static bool kvm_cpu_realizefn(CPUState *cs, Error **errp)
>> * check/update ucode_rev, phys_bits, guest_phys_bits, mwait
>> * cpu_common_realizefn() (via xcc->parent_realize)
>> */
>> +
>> + if (first) {
>> + first = false;
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * Since Linux v5.18, KVM provides a VM-level capability to easily
>> + * disable PMUs; however, QEMU has been providing PMU property per
>> + * CPU since v1.6. In order to accommodate both, have to configure
>> + * the VM-level capability here.
>> + */
>> + if (!cpu->enable_pmu &&
>> + kvm_check_extension(s, KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY)) {
>> + int r = kvm_vm_enable_cap(s, KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY, 0,
>> + KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE);
>> +
>> + if (r < 0) {
>> + error_setg(errp, "kvm: Failed to disable pmu cap: %s",
>> + strerror(-r));
>> + return false;
>> + }
>> + }
It seems KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY is called to only disable PMU here. From
point view of logic completeness, KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY should be called
to enabled PMU as well when user wants to enable PMU.
I know currently we only need to disable PMU, but we may need to enable PMU
via KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY soon.
We are working on the new KVM mediated vPMU framework, Sean suggest to
leverage KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY to enable mediated vPMU dynamically
(https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zz4uhmuPcZl9vJVr@google.com/). So It would be
better if the enable logic can be added here as well.
Thanks.
>> + }
>> +
>> if (cpu->max_features) {
>> if (enable_cpu_pm) {
>> if (kvm_has_waitpkg()) {
>> ---
> Sure. I will limit the change within only x86 + KVM.
>
>> In addition, if PMU is disabled, why not mask the perf related bits in
>> 8000_0001_ECX? :)
>>
> My fault. I have masked only 0x80000022, and I forgot 0x80000001 for AMD.
>
> Thank you very much for the reminder.
>
>
> I will wait for a day or maybe the weekend. I am going to switch to the previous
> solution in v2 if there isn't any further objection with a more valid reason.
>
> Thank you very much for the feedback!
>
> Dongli Zhang
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-21 10:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-04 9:40 [PATCH 0/7] target/i386/kvm/pmu: Enhancement, Bugfix and Cleanup Dongli Zhang
2024-11-04 9:40 ` [PATCH 1/7] target/i386: disable PerfMonV2 when PERFCORE unavailable Dongli Zhang
2024-11-06 3:54 ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-07 0:29 ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-07 7:57 ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-04 9:40 ` [PATCH 2/7] target/i386/kvm: introduce 'pmu-cap-disabled' to set KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE Dongli Zhang
2024-11-07 7:52 ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-07 23:44 ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-08 2:32 ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-08 12:52 ` Sandipan Das
2024-11-13 17:15 ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-14 0:13 ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-21 10:06 ` Mi, Dapeng [this message]
2025-02-07 9:52 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-02-09 20:12 ` dongli.zhang
2025-02-10 8:04 ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-11-04 9:40 ` [PATCH 3/7] target/i386/kvm: init PMU information only once Dongli Zhang
2024-11-10 15:29 ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-13 1:50 ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-13 16:48 ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-04 9:40 ` [PATCH 4/7] target/i386/kvm: rename architectural PMU variables Dongli Zhang
2024-11-04 9:40 ` [PATCH 5/7] target/i386/kvm: reset AMD PMU registers during VM reset Dongli Zhang
2024-11-06 9:58 ` Sandipan Das
2024-11-07 0:33 ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-07 21:00 ` Maksim Davydov
2024-11-08 1:19 ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-08 14:07 ` Maksim Davydov
2024-11-08 18:04 ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-04 9:40 ` [PATCH 6/7] target/i386/kvm: support perfmon-v2 for reset Dongli Zhang
2024-11-08 13:09 ` Sandipan Das
2024-11-08 16:55 ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-04 9:40 ` [PATCH 7/7] target/i386/kvm: don't stop Intel PMU counters Dongli Zhang
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