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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	 Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Paul Durrant" <paul@xen.org>,
	"Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	"Ankur Arora" <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Claudio Fontana" <cfontana@suse.de>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	armbru@redhat.com, "Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	vikram.garhwal@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 15/60] i386/xen: add pc_machine_kvm_type to initialize XEN_EMULATE mode
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:21:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f4b61979f4e149f2df2ab2b7de2823fd4c95e420.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d6e4ef2-1f27-f210-0378-879852a70024@redhat.com>

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On Fri, 2023-03-10 at 09:52 +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> I don't think this is abusing mc->kvm_type; that is the point where 
> startup code tells the machine "now you have your accelerator 
> configuration, do what you want with that info".  In fact I find using 
> xen_enabled() in mc->kvm_type to be less ugly than having a MachineClass 
> entry just for KVM. :)
> 
> But, if you want to move it to pc_basic_device_init() that is certainly 
> okay too.  It's not like people are going to add TCG/Xen support 
> tomorrow but it is a tiny step in the direction of less 
> accelerator-specific code for Xen emulation.

Yeah, I think I will.

We can't just leave it as it is; it needs *either* a coherent comment
explaining why the init calls happen from different locations, *or*
they need to be put together. Xiaoyao has triggered my "if it needs
documenting, fix it first and then explain what's left" instinct.

And it isn't even just a case of where we call the xen* functions from;
the xen_evtchn_connect_gsis() call *only* exists as a separate function
because we didn't have the GSIs available early enough to pass them to
xen_evtchn_create(). If we do it all in pc_basic_devices_init() then
that can be simplified too.

I cannot come up with a coherent comment explaining the current
situation, and thus I must fix it :)

Speaking of the 'fix it first' instinct... looking back at that mail
from December reminds me that I wanted to make '-M xenfv' work. Because
on the users' behalf, I *hate* what I had to write in
https://qemu-project.gitlab.io/qemu/system/i386/xen.html

qemu-system-x86_64 -M pc --accel kvm,xen-version=0x4000a,kernel-irqchip=split \
     -drive file=${GUEST_IMAGE},if=none,id=disk -device xen-disk,drive=disk,vdev=xvda

Why in the name of all that is holy can't that be

 qemu-system-x86_64 -M xenfv -drive file=${GUEST_IMAGE},if=xen-disk,xen-block.vdev=xvda

Now *maybe* I could live with them also having to add '-accel kvm'. If
we can genuinely make the argument that QEMU running on a Linux/KVM
host and not in a Xen dom0 couldn't possibly be expected to work that
out for itself. 

And in fact, why wouldn't it default to xen-disk for a Xen guest? Why
should the user have to specify that? And why *can't* it default to
xvda for the first (and only) present disk.... 

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-10  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-01 13:51 [PATCH v15 00/60] Xen HVM support under KVM David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 01/60] include: import Xen public headers to hw/xen/interface David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 02/60] xen: add CONFIG_XEN_BUS and CONFIG_XEN_EMU options for Xen emulation David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 03/60] xen: Add XEN_DISABLED mode and make it default David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 04/60] i386/kvm: Add xen-version KVM accelerator property and init KVM Xen support David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 05/60] i386/kvm: handle Xen HVM cpuid leaves David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 06/60] i386/kvm: Set Xen vCPU ID in KVM David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 07/60] xen-platform: exclude vfio-pci from the PCI platform unplug David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 08/60] xen-platform: allow its creation with XEN_EMULATE mode David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 09/60] i386/xen: handle guest hypercalls David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 10/60] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_xen_version David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 11/60] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_sched_op, SCHEDOP_shutdown David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 12/60] i386/xen: Implement SCHEDOP_poll and SCHEDOP_yield David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 13/60] hw/xen: Add xen_overlay device for emulating shared xenheap pages David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 14/60] xen: Permit --xen-domid argument when accel is KVM David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 15/60] i386/xen: add pc_machine_kvm_type to initialize XEN_EMULATE mode David Woodhouse
2023-03-10  3:15   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-03-10  8:28     ` David Woodhouse
2023-03-10  8:52       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-03-10  9:21         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2023-03-10 10:54         ` [PATCH] hw/xen: Simplify emulated Xen platform init David Woodhouse
2023-03-24  9:10           ` Paul Durrant
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 16/60] i386/xen: manage and save/restore Xen guest long_mode setting David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 17/60] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_memory_op David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 18/60] i386/xen: implement XENMEM_add_to_physmap_batch David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 19/60] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_hvm_op David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 20/60] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_vcpu_op David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 21/60] i386/xen: handle VCPUOP_register_vcpu_info David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 22/60] i386/xen: handle VCPUOP_register_vcpu_time_info David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 23/60] i386/xen: handle VCPUOP_register_runstate_memory_area David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 24/60] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_event_channel_op David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 25/60] i386/xen: implement HVMOP_set_evtchn_upcall_vector David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 26/60] i386/xen: implement HVMOP_set_param David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 27/60] hw/xen: Add xen_evtchn device for event channel emulation David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 28/60] i386/xen: Add support for Xen event channel delivery to vCPU David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 29/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_status David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 30/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_close David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 31/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_unmask David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 32/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_bind_virq David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 33/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_bind_ipi David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 34/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_send David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 35/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_alloc_unbound David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:51 ` [PATCH v15 36/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_bind_interdomain David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 37/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_bind_vcpu David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 38/60] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_reset David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 39/60] i386/xen: add monitor commands to test event injection David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 40/60] hw/xen: Support HVM_PARAM_CALLBACK_TYPE_GSI callback David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 41/60] hw/xen: Support HVM_PARAM_CALLBACK_TYPE_PCI_INTX callback David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 42/60] kvm/i386: Add xen-gnttab-max-frames property David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 43/60] hw/xen: Add xen_gnttab device for grant table emulation David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 44/60] hw/xen: Support mapping grant frames David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 45/60] i386/xen: Implement HYPERVISOR_grant_table_op and GNTTABOP_[gs]et_verson David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 46/60] hw/xen: Implement GNTTABOP_query_size David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 47/60] i386/xen: handle PV timer hypercalls David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 48/60] i386/xen: Reserve Xen special pages for console, xenstore rings David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 49/60] i386/xen: handle HVMOP_get_param David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 50/60] hw/xen: Add backend implementation of interdomain event channel support David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 51/60] hw/xen: Add xen_xenstore device for xenstore emulation David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 52/60] hw/xen: Add basic ring handling to xenstore David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 53/60] hw/xen: Automatically add xen-platform PCI device for emulated Xen guests David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 54/60] i386/xen: Implement HYPERVISOR_physdev_op David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 55/60] hw/xen: Implement emulated PIRQ hypercall support David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 56/60] hw/xen: Support GSI mapping to PIRQ David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 57/60] hw/xen: Support MSI " David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 58/60] kvm/i386: Add xen-evtchn-max-pirq property David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 59/60] i386/xen: Document Xen HVM emulation David Woodhouse
2023-03-01 13:52 ` [PATCH v15 60/60] hw/xen: Subsume xen_be_register_common() into xen_be_init() David Woodhouse

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