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From: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Radha Mohan <mohun106@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Trey Cain <tcain@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Radha.Chintakuntla@cavium.com, Sunil.Goutham@cavium.com,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>,
	Tomasz Nowicki <tn@semihalf.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, wtownsen@redhat.com,
	Bharat Bhushan <bharat.bhushan@nxp.com>,
	Prem Mallappa <prem.mallappa@gmail.com>,
	eric.auger.pro@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 10/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Implement translate callback
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 13:56:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f58908c7-71bd-eecb-2d67-5bfe85d82ffe@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA8R5zYM5ppcx4wJk4jkMbCekjZVyL+m7R6mekf+nA6O+g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Peter,
On 06/02/18 13:43, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 6 February 2018 at 12:19, Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 09/10/17 19:45, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> Incidentally, the spec requires us to perform memory accesses as
>>> at least 64-bit single-copy atomic (see 3.21.3) -- does this do that?
>>> (This gets important with SMP when the guest on another CPU might
>>> be updating the STE or page table entry at the same time as we're
>>> reading it...)
>>
>> Among all your comments on v7, here is the one I am the least
>> comfortable with. I was not able to figure out whether
>> dma_memory_read(), which I use now for all the descriptor accesses
>> guarantees this 64b single copy atomicity.
> 
> It doesn't -- it winds up in flatview_read_continue(), which will
> do a memcpy() from guest ram into the buffer, and since it's
> using an arbitrary passed-in length value the chances are high
> it won't end up using an atomic access on the host.
> 
> This is a nasty issue which we haven't figured out at all yet;
> see also this thread:
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-12/msg03067.html
> 
> For the moment my suggestion would be that when you need
> to do guest memory accesses that have atomicity requirements you:
>  (a) use an accessor function which specifically loads a
>   quantity of the correct size, rather than one which takes
>   an arbitrary start-and-length
>   (when we add APIs which do have atomicity guarantees they'll
>   be "load 64 bit word" etc, so using our existing APIs of
>   that form should avoid needing to restructure this code later)
>  (b) add a TODO comment noting the required atomicity

OK thank you for the link. To start with, I will add a comment in next
version then.

Thanks

Eric
> 
> thanks
> -- PMM
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-06 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-01 17:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 00/20] ARM SMMUv3 Emulation Support Eric Auger
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 01/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: smmu base device and datatypes Eric Auger
2017-09-27 17:38   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-28  7:57     ` Auger Eric
2017-09-30  8:28     ` Prem Mallappa
2017-10-02  7:43       ` Auger Eric
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 02/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: IOMMU memory region and address space setup Eric Auger
2017-10-09 14:39   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 03/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: smmu_read/write_sysmem Eric Auger
2017-10-09 14:46   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 04/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: VMSAv8-64 page table walk Eric Auger
2017-10-09 15:36   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 05/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Skeleton Eric Auger
2017-09-08 10:52   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Linu Cherian
2017-09-08 15:18     ` Auger Eric
2017-09-12  6:14       ` Linu Cherian
2017-10-09 16:17   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 06/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Wired IRQ and GERROR helpers Eric Auger
2017-10-09 17:01   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 07/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Queue helpers Eric Auger
2017-10-09 17:12   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 08/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Implement MMIO write operations Eric Auger
2017-10-09 17:17   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 09/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Event queue recording helper Eric Auger
2017-10-09 17:34   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 10/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Implement translate callback Eric Auger
2017-10-09 17:45   ` Peter Maydell
2018-02-06 12:19     ` Auger Eric
2018-02-06 12:43       ` Peter Maydell
2018-02-06 12:56         ` Auger Eric [this message]
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 11/20] target/arm/kvm: Translate the MSI doorbell in kvm_arch_fixup_msi_route Eric Auger
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 12/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Implement data structure and TLB invalidation notifications Eric Auger
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 13/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Implement IOMMU memory region replay callback Eric Auger
2017-09-14  9:27   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Linu Cherian
2017-09-14 14:31     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2017-09-14 14:43       ` Tomasz Nowicki
2017-09-15  7:30         ` Auger Eric
2017-09-15  7:41           ` Auger Eric
2017-09-15 10:42           ` tn
2017-09-15 13:19             ` Auger Eric
2017-09-15 14:50             ` Auger Eric
2017-09-18  9:50               ` Tomasz Nowicki
2017-09-15  7:23     ` Auger Eric
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 14/20] hw/arm/virt: Store the PCI host controller dt phandle Eric Auger
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 15/20] hw/arm/sysbus-fdt: Pass the VirtMachineState to the node creation functions Eric Auger
2017-10-09 17:47   ` Peter Maydell
2017-11-13 13:00     ` Auger Eric
2017-11-13 13:08       ` Peter Maydell
2017-11-13 13:37         ` Auger Eric
2017-11-13 13:44           ` Peter Maydell
2017-11-13 13:59             ` Auger Eric
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 16/20] hw/arm/sysbus-fdt: Pass the platform bus base address in PlatformBusFDTData Eric Auger
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 17/20] hw/arm/sysbus-fdt: Allow smmuv3 dynamic instantiation Eric Auger
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 18/20] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Add smmuv3 node in IORT table Eric Auger
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 19/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: [not for upstream] add SMMU_CMD_TLBI_NH_VA_AM handling Eric Auger
2017-10-09 17:48   ` Peter Maydell
2017-10-17 15:06   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Linu Cherian
2017-09-01 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 20/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: [not for upstream] Add caching-mode option Eric Auger
2017-10-09 17:49   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-07 12:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 00/20] ARM SMMUv3 Emulation Support Peter Maydell
2017-09-08  8:35   ` Auger Eric
2017-09-08  5:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-08  8:36   ` Auger Eric
2017-09-12  6:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Linu Cherian
2017-09-12  6:38   ` Auger Eric
2017-09-28  6:43 ` Linu Cherian
2017-09-28  7:13   ` Peter Xu
2017-09-28  7:54     ` Auger Eric
2017-09-28  9:21       ` Linu Cherian
2017-10-24  5:38 ` Linu Cherian
2017-10-24 10:20   ` Will Deacon
2017-10-24 17:06     ` Linu Cherian

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