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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"qemu devel list" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] hw/i386: add facility to expose CPU topology over fw-cfg
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 23:03:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f61b1627-c83e-6b1d-f1cb-d9f852af61a7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191009131305.298d8716@redhat.com>

On 10/09/19 13:13, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 20:58:30 +0200
> Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> Eduardo, Igor,
>>
>> On 10/08/19 12:52, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>> FW_CFG_MAX_CPUS exposes the (exclusive) maximum APIC ID to guest firmware,
>>> due to historical reasons. That value is not useful to edk2, however. For
>>> supporting VCPU hotplug, edk2 needs:
>>>
>>> - the boot CPU count (already exposed in FW_CFG_NB_CPUS),
>>>
>>> - and the maximum foreseen CPU count (tracked in
>>>   "MachineState.smp.max_cpus", but not currently exposed).
>>>
>>> Add a new fw-cfg file to expose "max_cpus".
>>>
>>> While at it, expose the rest of the topology too (die / core / thread
>>> counts), because I expect that the VCPU hotplug feature for OVMF will
>>> ultimately need those too, and the data size is not large.  
>>
>> In fact, it seems like OVMF will have to synthesize the new
>> (hot-plugged) VCPU's *APIC-ID* from the following information sources:
>>
>> - the topology information described above (die / core / thread counts), and
>>
>> - the "modern" CPU hotplug interface (docs/specs/acpi_cpu_hotplug.txt).
> 
> In general duplicating cpu_index+topo => apic id in firmware I
> consider as a really bad idea (even ignoring cpu_index 
> which I were trying to get rid of in QEMU), it's going to break
> when algorithms diverge and it will be never ending race.

OK.

> Topology is rather messy business, not only arch specific but also
> cpu specific (ex: on my review TODO list, there is a series for
> fixing broken EPYCs topo). Who knows what other variables would be
> add dependencies for calculating APIC IDs down the road.
> 
> I also consider to re-use CPU hotplug interface on ARM, which will
> bring its own set of algorithms.
> 
> Let's instead add a command to CPU hotplug interface to return
> APIC ID (which QEMU already calculated) and later MPIDR (ARM)
> for selected CPU, so firmware could get it while enumeration CPUs
> via that interface.

Sounds good to me, thanks.

I'll stay tuned for your patches! :)

Thanks!
Laszlo


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-09 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-08 10:52 [PATCH 0/4] hw/i386: pass "MachineState.smp.max_cpus" to OVMF Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-08 10:52 ` [PATCH 1/4] fw_cfg: bump file slots to 40 Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-08 10:52 ` [PATCH 2/4] target/i386: remove useless enable_compat_apic_id_mode() prototype Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-08 13:35   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-08 18:22     ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-08 10:52 ` [PATCH 3/4] hw/i386: add facility to expose CPU topology over fw-cfg Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-08 13:29   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-08 18:31     ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-08 15:59   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-10-09 21:01     ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-10  9:45       ` Igor Mammedov
2019-10-10 10:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-10 12:48       ` Igor Mammedov
2019-10-10 16:23         ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-10 18:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-11  6:50             ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-11  7:46               ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-10 16:15       ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-08 18:58   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-09 11:13     ` Igor Mammedov
2019-10-09 21:03       ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2019-10-09 21:09     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-10-08 10:52 ` [PATCH 4/4] hw/i386/pc: " Laszlo Ersek
2019-10-08 14:23 ` [PATCH 0/4] hw/i386: pass "MachineState.smp.max_cpus" to OVMF no-reply

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